Folding KK

The Truth · #1 10-21-2006, 07:32 PM

Poker stars 2-4NL

button (480)
Hero (600)

I have been playing pretty TAG straight forward at this table. I am probably 16/8. Button is 15/3. Nit. I have never seen him 3 bet, but I have seen him limp AKo and Smooth call QQ pf.

I raise to 20 from mp3, button reraises to 64, I call 44 more.

Flop is 3h 4c 6s (138 in pot)

I check, button pushes for 420, I fold.

TheJared · #2 10-21-2006, 07:39 PM

What?...........

15/3 over how many hands?
Is he massively overbetting the pot with aces in this spot? I am unsure of your read.

viciouspenguin · #3 10-21-2006, 07:44 PM

is this against browerkid? browerkid is one of the huggest preflop nits in midstakes games... even more so than mi3zzike (or whatever his name is) from party 3/6.

terp · #4 10-21-2006, 07:55 PM

you realize you called preflop without odds for set value, so why are you folding now?

shootaa · #5 10-21-2006, 07:57 PM

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you realize you called preflop without odds for set value, so why are you folding now?

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lol. ppl do some crazy things man, ogogogogog

ddubois · #6 10-21-2006, 08:07 PM

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you realize you called preflop without odds for set value

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I call 44 more... 138 in pot... button pushes for 420

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O RLY?

The Truth · #7 10-21-2006, 08:24 PM

I am fairly certain I had set value, after his reraise this player is playing for stacks postflop. As you can see by his push.

Yes, he plays AA this way. He *might* play KK this way. I haven't seen him play KK this way.

He isn't pushing no pair here. QQ he smooth calls PF. AKo he smooth calls.

Its AA or KK.

I lose the times we both have KK (he might play KK different).

I lose stacks the times it goes set over set, cause im not that good.

I didn't even consider folding to the preflop reraise, cause I felt like I had enough equity to go for set value here.

How often do I need to be good here for the flop to be a call? I need to win the whole pot around 43% of the time to make calling his flop push profitable.

I don't think my hand is best nearly that often.

PF is closer than the flop, but I am fairly certain it is a call.

Eagles · #8 10-21-2006, 09:03 PM

How many hands have you played with him? Just because he didn't 3bet qq once does not mean he never 3bets it

The Truth · #9 10-21-2006, 10:58 PM

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How many hands have you played with him? Just because he didn't 3bet qq once does not mean he never 3bets it

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I agree, and he may have 3 bet it before I just not picked up on it. I had like 1k hands with him.

kagame · #10 10-22-2006, 01:34 AM

i dont think that even if you cant completely eliminate QQ here that it means he has it very often

i love the fold