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Old 09-02-2007, 11:45 AM
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NOTE: THIS S NOT TO DEFEND THE NAZI'S, but a brief history lesson here is required.

Yes, the Nazi’s committed serious atrocities, it was not, however, their idea.

After the U. S. led battle in the Middle East prior to invading Italy, we ran the Mufti out of Iraq. He was the uncle of Saddam.

The German’s entered into the area in a deal with the Baathists (Iraq was one a Syria still is a Baathist country).

He fled to Germany. The Germans were in the process of expelling the Jews to the Holy Land, NOT killing them. As part of the ‘deal’ for support and hopes of turning things around and re-taking the Middle East the Mufti required NO expulsions, death to the Jews.

Yes, the Nazi’s committed horrible atrocities, in the name of and on behalf of the Muslim leaders.

In many respects, the war we are fighting now is simply the final culmination of WWII since we never finished then, defeating the Baathist, instead moving on and leaving that behind.

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Old 09-02-2007, 02:39 PM
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NOTE: THIS S NOT TO DEFEND THE NAZI'S, but a brief history lesson here is required.

Yes, the Nazi’s committed serious atrocities, it was not, however, their idea.

After the U. S. led battle in the Middle East prior to invading Italy, we ran the Mufti out of Iraq. He was the uncle of Saddam.

The German’s entered into the area in a deal with the Baathists (Iraq was one a Syria still is a Baathist country).

He fled to Germany. The Germans were in the process of expelling the Jews to the Holy Land, NOT killing them. As part of the ‘deal’ for support and hopes of turning things around and re-taking the Middle East the Mufti required NO expulsions, death to the Jews.

Yes, the Nazi’s committed horrible atrocities, in the name of and on behalf of the Muslim leaders.

In many respects, the war we are fighting now is simply the final culmination of WWII since we never finished then, defeating the Baathist, instead moving on and leaving that behind.

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I'm sorry but this post is completely wrong. Hitler was the biggest anti-semite of all time. He stated in his book Mein Kampf that he blamed the Jews for Germany's defeat in WW1, the Depression in Germany in 1920's which was worse than the US Depression and every other ill he could imagine. He also stated in his book that he wanted to exterminate all the Jews.
The Nazis were killing Jews from the beginning of WWII if not before September 1939. In fact, concentration camps started before 1939. The US invaded North Africa in November 1942 in an operation called Operation Torch. Truth is that US forces never entered the Middle East in WWII; only North Africa. The UK held Egypt and Isreal, called Palestine, during WWII. Syria and Irag were French colonies before WWII and were not largely occupied in WWII. The French briefly reclaimed them after WWII, but left by 1947-48.
No Iragi had anything to do with or caused the Holocaust.
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Old 09-02-2007, 02:56 PM
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My post is from studing history, however, you can read more at:

http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/husseini.html

A quote from the article:

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Husseini is moreover "credited" with having personally foiled any compromise on the fate of Hungarian Jewry at the very end of the war.

In his memoirs he wrote: "Our fundamental condition for cooperating with Germany was a free hand to eradicate every last Jew from Palestine and the Arab world. I asked Hitler for an explicit undertaking to allow us to solve the Jewish problem in a manner befitting our national and racial aspirations and according to the scientific methods innovated by Germany in the handling of its Jews. The answer I got was: 'The Jews are yours.' "

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Old 09-02-2007, 03:42 PM
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Gimme a break. Note the paragraph states "according to scientific methods innovated by Germany." What this Husseini might or might not have wanted had nothing to do with the Holocaust.
If the Nazis captured Jews they were shipped to concentration camps. This is why no US Jews fought in Europe. My late step-father, uncle who died in WWII and all my father's friends who fought in WWII were in the Pacific theater.
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Old 09-02-2007, 05:04 PM
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Simply visit this search inquiry:

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=baa...8&fr=b1ie7

All you will need to read and know.

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Old 09-02-2007, 08:19 PM
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Simply visit this search inquiry:

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=baa...8&fr=b1ie7

All you will need to read and know.

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Ok, I am not surprised that maybe the Nazi party started the Baathist party. Most Arabs were allied with Germany in WWII. But they did not cause the Holocaust. This is my last word on the subject.
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Old 09-02-2007, 09:18 PM
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Im with JP, lets just lock this thread? We can start a new THompson one when he announces sept 6th and play nicer.
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Old 09-03-2007, 11:00 AM
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Agreed

This has gotten so far off course
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