tptk vs weird river minraise

[nazahl]

3rd orbit at the table, villain is unknown. river bet size ok?

he instacalled flop, took a couple secs on the turn. river raise was also instant.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $104
Hero (MP): $100.70
CO: $132.40
BTN: $83.45
SB: $63
BB: $101

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, CO calls $3.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($8.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6.50</font>, CO calls $6.50

Turn: ($21.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $16.50</font>, CO calls $16.50

River: ($54.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $25</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $50</font>, Hero ...?

[jk3a]

I bet much larger on river

[nazahl]

yea, I normally would.

but the timing on his flop/turn calls gave me the impression that he was pretty weak

[markuisis]

this is almost always a scared value bet with two pair, set or straight IMO. I fold readless and generally dont like ur bet size as it leads to 2nd guessing

[ikestoys]

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this is almost always a scared value bet with two pair, set or straight IMO. I fold readless and generally dont like ur bet size as it leads to 2nd guessing

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your readless read must be pretty sweet if you have to be right 83% of the time.

[markuisis]

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this is almost always a scared value bet with two pair, set or straight IMO. I fold readless and generally dont like ur bet size as it leads to 2nd guessing

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your readless read must be pretty sweet if you have to be right 83% of the time.

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u can talk urself into calling for pot odds but i def think ur behind a lot lot more of the time, this reeeks of a scared value bet with two pair, sets or straight.

[markuisis]

btw, my readless read assumes typical betting patterns, and this betting pattern ive noticed is a scared value bet with two pair, straight or set. If i had a read to the contrary, then id call, thats what i mean by readless

[ikestoys]

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this is almost always a scared value bet with two pair, set or straight IMO. I fold readless and generally dont like ur bet size as it leads to 2nd guessing

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your readless read must be pretty sweet if you have to be right 83% of the time.

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u can talk urself into calling for pot odds but i def think ur behind a lot lot more of the time, this reeeks of a scared value bet with two pair, sets or straight.

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your readless read must be pretty sweet if you have to be right 83% of the time.

[markuisis]

well call if u want just cause of pot odds and hoping hes doing something retarded, im just saying ive never seen this be something other than a scared/thin value bet.

[ikestoys]

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well call if u want just cause of pot odds and hoping hes doing something retarded, im just saying ive never seen this be something other than a scared/thin value bet.

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your readless read must be pretty sweet if you have to be right 83% of the time.