river c/r bluff

[Fly]

I was not at the table very long before this hand and I was not involved in any notable pots. I was playing a little lag. Villain in this hand is new to me, I searched and saw him multitabling (mainly 1/2) and this table. He has been playing tight and hasn't really gotten involved in the action so far.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.75/$1.50 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $304.30
BB: $535.15
Hero (UTG): $300.00
BTN: $300.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $20.25</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $14.25

Flop: ($42.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $36.00</font>, Hero calls $36.00

Turn: ($114.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($114.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $58.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $243.75</font>

[Spy Dog]

Try bluffing when something other than the least possible scare card hits on the river.

[Kimpan]

I fold preflop and I fold river, but I'm a nit.
or maybe I call river..

[tufat23]

fine. he doesnt have more than 1 pair here, ever, and AQ at best

[RUDIKULOUS]

I doubt he has a strong hand given his line, if he did he'd prob bet the turn.

[Casper05]

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Try bluffing when something other than the least possible scare card hits on the river.

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[Fly]

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Try bluffing when something other than the least possible scare card hits on the river.

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"A 2! wtf? Ahhh, that bastard obviously missed a turn c/r!"

[Spy Dog]

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I doubt he has a strong hand given his line, if he did he'd prob bet the turn.

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This is true. So, check-calling seems legit, no?

If he's got a worse hand then check-calling and CRAI have the same EV.

So, we are really only CRAI to gain value from Qx and JJ. But, we are risking a huge amount for such a smallish range that might call sometimes (with AQ/KQ). Not good.

[Nielsio]

This is an extremely transparent bluff. Namely you can't call his riverbet, so you check-raise. If I am villain I am calling here a LOT with Qx or better.

I doubt he's betting here with JJ btw, so you're pretty much screwed.

If you think he's bluffing, you should call. If he folded he probably had air.

If you had &gt; 1 pair, wouldn't you do something like c/r-lead-lead, lead-lead-lead, or lead-c/r, or c/c-lead-lead, or c/c-c/r?

Your line makes no sense for &gt; 1 pair.

[Casper05]

if you had a set or 2pr, I would expect you to lead the river to get value out of a Q much more often than crai. I think a river all is much better than crai.