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Old 09-12-2007, 01:04 AM
Osprey Osprey is offline
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Default Stars $100- A-Q on draw heavy board with K on board

Wasn't sure what to do here, didn't think I was beating a whole hell of a lot- had I been raised I was done with the hand. Anyone have a better line? I tried to block the river.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($32.20)
Button ($35)
SB ($96)
BB ($98.65)
UTG ($76.50)
UTG+1 ($93)
MP1 ($103.80)
Hiro ($206.45)
MP3 ($127.40)

Preflop: Hiro is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hiro raises to $5</font>, MP3 calls $5, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($12.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hiro bets $8</font>, MP3 calls $8.

Turn: ($28.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hiro bets $15</font>, MP3 calls $15.

River: ($58.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hiro bets $15</font>, MP3 calls $15.

Final Pot: $88.50
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:06 AM
SABR42 SABR42 is offline
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Default Re: Star $100- A-Q on draw heavy board with K on board

Bet more on the flop/turn to protect against draws, and check river.
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:47 AM
Johnes Benjamin Johnes Benjamin is offline
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Default Re: Star $100- A-Q on draw heavy board with K on board

def. check river, I don't see it as a necessary spot to block.
most hands are checking behind.
blocking bets are not particularly effective against pure bluffs, and these are the only hands that you will win a SD against that will bet river anyway.
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Old 09-13-2007, 11:13 AM
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Default Re: Star $100- A-Q on draw heavy board with K on board

Villain showed A-K, MHING. Other than the possible river check (call decent sized bet after bluff induction?), should I really be betting more on flop (3/4 pot) and turn (50% of pot) when I am not close to confident I am ahead?
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Old 09-13-2007, 11:49 AM
ship_it_trebek ship_it_trebek is offline
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Default Re: Star $100- A-Q on draw heavy board with K on board

Flop needs to be more since it's such a wet flop. The turn doesn't change much so if you are firing a second barrel, it needs to be larger than yours.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: Star $100- A-Q on draw heavy board with K on board

Umm...I don't think betting the flop more heavily (e.g., potting it) would really protect your hand vs. drawing hands, as I find that most players will call almost anything on the flop with a reasonable draw, and this isn't a scenario where you want to swell your pot, because your hand is mediocre and your reverse implied odds are troublesome.

While you didn't protect your hand here due to the weak bets (and as it turns out, you had nothing to protect!), you probably lost less than if you did.
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Old 09-13-2007, 01:03 PM
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Default Re: Star $100- A-Q on draw heavy board with K on board

are you betting this turn for value, for bluff, or for what?

if it's for bluff, bet more. if it is for value, this is fine.

i check this river too, nothing got there, and if you were behind on the flop/turn, you're still behind here as well.
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Old 09-13-2007, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: Star $100- A-Q on draw heavy board with K on board

I guess value- I would definitely have checked behind had I been in position for pot control. The turn bet was more of a bet I made not to lose control of the hand and have to face two large bets from a flush draw or pair and straight draw.
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