Aces facing Agression - Page 2

threads13 · #11 04-23-2007, 10:04 AM

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So you just fold aces with continuing aggression unless you have reason to believe dude is a dork?

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Meh. If you have several hundred hands on him can you tell me what sort of hands he would do this with? Give him a range and then we can talk about it further.

Osprey · #12 04-23-2007, 10:20 AM

So you expect everyone with top pair or an overpair to the board to meekly call you down when you have aces? I'm really asking- I know I love it when they do,

threads13 · #13 04-23-2007, 10:22 AM

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So you expect everyone with top pair or an overpair to the board to meekly call you down when you have aces? I'm really asking- I know I love it when they do,

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I am not expecting people to just call me down, no.

However, I am still expecting you to give me a range. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

EDIT: If it seems like I am being short with you on your blanket questions it's because I want to see if we are on the same page as far as what hands he will do this with. Will he do this with a middle PP? Yada, yada...

Osprey · #14 04-23-2007, 10:31 AM

10s-Qiueens, A-10. 6s and 2s as well, though these and kings might be more aggro- I would have exoected Queens and Kings to raise, but this guy doesn't

CanSpoilU · #15 04-23-2007, 10:34 AM

While its nice to have a read on what this guy would call you with... I am more curious as to how much history you have with him and to know what you think his read on you is.

Are you the type of guy that only raises premiums? Do you have a wider raising range? Have you raised a lot on this table recently?

If you have been card dead and just raised this and he is betting into you... you are most likely beat with a set turned boat by him.

If you have been raising a lot and he has seen this, calling this down I think is OK.

Osprey · #16 04-23-2007, 10:53 AM

Nothing special- I raise quite a bit from the back, but not a particularily large amount right before this.

threads13 · #17 04-23-2007, 11:30 AM

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10s-Qiueens, A-10. 6s and 2s as well, though these and kings might be more aggro- I would have exoected Queens and Kings to raise, but this guy doesn't

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Let me make sure I am reading this right...

You would put him on a set(TT/66/22), an overpair (JJ+), or TPTK AT. Right?

futuredoc85 · #18 04-23-2007, 11:32 AM

3-betting this flop is disgusting, even more so if you are folding at any point afterwards, but disgusting regardless

CalledDownLight · #19 04-23-2007, 11:37 AM

I think you either fold on the flop (which I strongly hate) or call down here. The turn and river didn't change to board (unless he would c/r the flop with 67 or something, but thats really unlikely). Calling the flop to reevaluate the turn is a huge leak. Almost everyone is firing out here on the turn after making this c/r and folding the river getting over 4.5 to 1 is criminal. JJ and QQ are a large part of this guy's range given that his pfr is only 1.

Georgia Avenue · #20 04-23-2007, 11:38 AM

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3-betting this flop is disgusting, even more so if you are folding at any point afterwards, but disgusting regardless

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Especially since you made a weak cbet and got barely reraised. Line is fine, especially since he discounted you on bet sizes. Looks like AT to me... if a set, say: "thanks for the cheap showdown dude!"