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Old 10-25-2007, 05:45 PM
KitCloudkicker KitCloudkicker is offline
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Default I river trips and see no reason to call

Speaking of river laydowns...

I've played hundreds of thousands of hands of hold em and cant remember ever doing this.

Live full 10. Villain in this hand is playing straightforward, nothing notable about him. A bit on the passive side.

I open A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG+1. Villain CC's on button. Others fold.

Flop is Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I bet. He raises. I 3 bet. He calls.

Turn is the K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I bet, he raises. I call.

River is the Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. I check/fold.

LOL?
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Old 10-25-2007, 05:49 PM
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Default Re: I river trips and see no reason to call

i don't take this line postflop but given that you did, i sanity call, just because the pot is huge.
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: I river trips and see no reason to call

I like it. You're not beating anything, and your opponent is straightforward and passive. I'm not laughing. Of course, in the heat of battle I'm thinking hard about it first, but it looks right.

Still feels dirty though.
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: I river trips and see no reason to call

Wow. Just wow.

Ok, let's try to put him on some hand ranges here.

We'll give him some PP's, suited (and offsuit) aces, some broadway.

When he raises the flop, he might have top pair or better.

When he raises the turn, he doesn't have the nut flush (and since he's passive, that's scary.) So maybe he has two-pair, a set, a straight, or a flush. I think it is safe to say he does not have 1 pair or a draw.

On the river, he either filled up, or got somewhat counterfitted, but since he still raised, I'm guessing he's probably full (or has a flush and doesn't care.)

I like it. The pots big, but what do we beat?
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: I river trips and see no reason to call

If you are absolutely sure he does not have AA, AK or AQ, I guess a fold is ok, but I'm not sure how you can be that certain. I would at least check/call the river.
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: I river trips and see no reason to call

Well, the villain has been described as passive and the board is both flushed and straightened. No way the trips are good here I think.. nice fold. Not sure why but you think he had J9 here?
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:13 PM
StrictlyStrategy StrictlyStrategy is offline
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Default Re: I river trips and see no reason to call

I fold here a lot.

Kit are you the kid with the shaved head and glasses?
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:24 PM
KitCloudkicker KitCloudkicker is offline
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Default Re: I river trips and see no reason to call

[ QUOTE ]
I fold here a lot.

Kit are you the kid with the shaved head and glasses?

[/ QUOTE ]

nope. my head isnt shaved
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: I river trips and see no reason to call

Given the diamonds on board and in our hand, villain doesnt have a flush.

Villain cold called the button, I rule out KK and AA.

That leaves me with AJ+, KQs and 99+.

It seems like we beat only JJ and 99 if his range is as limited as I put it, so a fold is the sane choice.

However in the heat of battle, I think I c/c. I am not good enough to lay this had down, yet.
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Old 10-25-2007, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: I river trips and see no reason to call

Why can't villain have J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9x?
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