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Old 11-22-2007, 11:52 PM
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Default flop TP3k and c/r by lagtag opponent

i dont knwo how villain views me because he only came about 1/2 through the session.

villain is 25/21/3.58

how do we react here

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $148.70
SB: $272.95
BB: $112.25
UTG: $106.50
Hero (CO): $112

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, BTN calls $3.50, SB calls $3, BB folds

Flop: ($11.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $9</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $38.50</font>
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Old 11-22-2007, 11:57 PM
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Default Re: flop TP3k and c/r by lagtag opponent

I fold here unless I've seen him do crazy [censored]
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: flop TP3k and c/r by lagtag opponent

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I fold here unless I've seen him do crazy [censored]

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what range do you put him on?

heres a hand he flats the flop against tatiana okupenik (lagtaggy player but not too great IMO). given this hand and him calling on a pretty dry board, as the hand in question he does as well, its hard for me to put him on a range that beats me here. my flop is dry too.

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UTG: $108.60
MP: $98.90
CO: $210.45
BTN: $111.85
SB: $51.35
Hero (BB): $101.50

Pre-Flop: you cant know this hand dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $3.50</font>, MP folds, CO calls $3.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($8.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $6</font>, CO calls $6

Turn: ($20.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">CO bets $13.50</font>, UTG calls $13.50

River: ($47.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">CO bets $28</font>, UTG calls $28

Results: $103.50 Pot ($3 Rake)
UTG mucked 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Nines and Fives) and LOST (-$51 NET)
CO showed K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Fives) and WON $100.50 (+$49.50 NET)
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: flop TP3k and c/r by lagtag opponent

2 pair+ and bluff is what i put him on
flop is very dry, unless he is really active postflop I will probably dump ATo here and wait for a better spot
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: flop TP3k and c/r by lagtag opponent

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2 pair+ and bluff is what i put him on
flop is very dry, unless he is really active postflop I will probably dump ATo here and wait for a better spot

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ive seen him lead TP2K (pair of tens) on flop, get raised, call then c/r turn AI. both these hands were during this session.

fwiw i folded here too but not sure it was optimal
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:14 AM
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Default Re: flop TP3k and c/r by lagtag opponent

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2 pair+ and bluff is what i put him on
flop is very dry, unless he is really active postflop I will probably dump ATo here and wait for a better spot

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ive seen him lead TP2K (pair of tens) on flop, get raised, call then c/r turn AI. both these hands were during this session.

fwiw i folded here too but not sure it was optimal

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This is tough. Because I'd expect him to squeeze us preflop with AJ. So there's not a ton of sets he could have. I wish his check-raise was smaller. I think calling and folding are pretty close...

I'd be more likely to call if we were heads up, since he should give us more credit. However, I wouldn't hate a call here even if it's for metagame as much as anything.
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