Farha/Townsend stiff dealer? - Page 3

dmisfh1 · #21 06-08-2007, 05:29 AM

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Honestly - If I was Doug Dalton, Linda would have been let go. Whats she is doing is hurting the trust relationship between the Bellagio and it's high rollers. She needs to learn to STFU.

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Linda has been writing this for quite some time.

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Indeed. I always thought she got away with it with just using first names and sometimes initials.. not explicitly spelling out who it was that did what. But here she quite plainly states that it was Sam Farha. I agree that this could possibly be grounds for being let go.

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Maybe I'm not understanding this correctly, but this whole situation seems weird to me. Now, let me preface this with saying that I am not a dealer nor do I live in Vegas, so maybe I don't have the same understanding as some of you who are involved with these type of situations day in and day out. However, to me it seems weird if this is (as Photoc wrote in this thread) "...pretty standard in bigger games." Am I to assume that in big games, players normally tip LESS by both percentage during AND amount at the end of a game/session?!? If this is so, why is that the case? I have played small stakes live (100 NL, 200 NL) and people normally tip a couple dollars per pot (some more, others less), but I dont think I've ever seen more than a few hands in a row go untipped. So I dont understand how players that are literally playing for hundreds of thousands of dollars dont tip at all at the end of a session. Maybe this is uber-standard to some of you guys, but I am a noob when it comes to tipping high stakes games, so excuse me for my ignorance if this is actually the case.

Also, in reference to the post that I quoted above, why would this dealer be fired? Because she posted her dealing history on an internet diary?!? Especially after they both stiffed her? If what she wrote is true, then what exactly would she be getting fired for?

In conclusion, I'm sorry if this stuff is apparent to others who are closely tied to the industry and know how all this stuff "works"; but to me, alot that is written in this thread seems slightly ridiculous (probably cause I'm a noob to this stuff) and bothers me a little bit.

Any input is appreciated.

cpk · #22 06-08-2007, 05:55 AM

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Honestly - If I was Doug Dalton, Linda would have been let go. Whats she is doing is hurting the trust relationship between the Bellagio and it's high rollers. She needs to learn to STFU.

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Seriously. She has some mighty big balls.

Gonso · #23 06-08-2007, 06:51 AM

I certainly sympathize, and have no problems with stiffs being outed for what they are, but I don't think this is the smartest career move on Linda's part. It is pretty unprofessional on her part, even if it might be a little frustrating.

bigfishead · #24 06-08-2007, 07:25 AM

Today it was Sammy down 2.5 for the trip so he states. BB up 500k, and and one pot for 350k to townsend and I airballed the down for a fat zero.

As I heard today before going in....7 dealers in a row were stiffed in that game.

steamboatin · #25 06-08-2007, 08:44 AM

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Maybe I'm not understanding this correctly, but this whole situation seems weird to me. Now, let me preface this with saying that I am not a dealer nor do I live in Vegas, so maybe I don't have the same understanding as some of you who are involved with these type of situations day in and day out.

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I have a friend that deals in Vegas and he never mentioned it but a mutual friend that deals here locally, told me while LHAO, "X, is out there dealing $1,000-2,000 limit holdem and they tipped him $5 for his down."

WhileI find it unimaginable to be playing that high and stiffing the dealers, I am confident it happens on a regular basis.

In the casino industry you don't talk bad your customers, especially the high rollers. If you can't say something nice, you are much better off, not speaking about high rollers.

NicksDad1970 · #26 06-08-2007, 08:53 AM

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How long will she keep her job, blogging that the high rollers are stiffs, even though it is common knowledge?

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Good question. But she's been bloggin like that for a years.

AngusThermopyle · #27 06-08-2007, 10:12 AM

A dealer normally makes maybe $20 in tips in a down in a "normal" game?

Just treat it as a glorified dead spread.

LasVegasMichael · #28 06-08-2007, 10:45 AM

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Honestly - If I was Doug Dalton, Linda would have been let go. Whats she is doing is hurting the trust relationship between the Bellagio and it's high rollers. She needs to learn to STFU.

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Strongly disagree.

There is no attorney client privelage here, nor is there any non disclosure agreement between poker dealers and players.

If you want to make an argument that there is an unwritten rule about dealers not discussing said things, a counter argument can be made about an unwritten concerning toking the dealer (which is a pretty well known one).

laikeze · #29 06-08-2007, 10:53 AM

ummm. They aren't high roller, they are poker players. A slot machine makes more money for the casinos than these two playing poker at this table. Unless they are big gamblers at other games. Either way, if they didn't tip the dealer who are they going to complain to? Giver her a $100 chip. cheap bastards

John Kilduff · #30 06-08-2007, 11:06 AM

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This is pretty standard in bigger games.

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About 15 years ago I was dealing the largest side game during a major tournament in Las Vegas. After putting forth my very best effort, at the end of the down there were only two players who had tipped me. The two players who were thoughtful and considerate enough to tip were Berry Johnston, and a big loud drunken fellow called Franny. By the way, they both tipped more than the minimum and it was definitely appreciated. Thanks again guys.