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Old 04-02-2007, 01:49 PM
renodoc renodoc is offline
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Default knock out the jackass?? calling with a known coin-flip

Live MTT. 3 tables left, paying one table. Guy on my left is a complete idiot. Drunk, loud, rude. hitting on the cocktail waitresses and thinks he's going to get some by showing them naked girlie pics on his ipod. total loser.

Blinds are 150-300, I have about 5500 in SB, idiot has 4200 in BB. Folded around and he throws all his chips in out of turn and flips over 88. Floor is called, his bet will stand and action is on me. I have A9o. Clearly there will be a lot of secondary gain if I knock this loser out as he has been an annoyance for the past couple hours.

Who calls here?
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Old 04-02-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: knock out the jackass?? calling with a known coin-flip

Its a tough one. I'm thinking fold only because hopefully you can catch him on another hand where you have him dominated and he is too drunk to realize or to even pay attention. The only problem with folding is that there is a good chance someone else might get all his chips. Also, if you think your going to play better by having this guy long gone from your side, then maybe go for it...what did you do?
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: knock out the jackass?? calling with a known coin-flip

fold, find a better spot than being a 42-57 dog.
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: knock out the jackass?? calling with a known coin-flip

I might call with A9s but definitely dump A9o. Suited its a little closer to 50/50, still though you can find a better spot to get it in and take him out.
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Old 04-02-2007, 10:49 PM
FlyingCarpet FlyingCarpet is offline
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Default Re: knock out the jackass?? calling with a known coin-flip

As much as I get annoyed by having a player like that at the table I strive to not let it affect my decisions. Unless I'm short stacked I fold this and wait for a better spot. Would be better if he was on your right though.
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Old 04-03-2007, 01:01 AM
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Default Re: knock out the jackass?? calling with a known coin-flip

Is there an ante? Since this is basically a math question, if there is I call.
You could consider the "experience EV" of not having him around, but that shouldn't affect your decision. You may also consider the "there are probably aces in the deck since it folded to the blinds" reasoning, which would increase your chances slightly.

But here's the important part: Since this is an obviously close decision, what really matters is the state of your chip stack relative to the table. If winning the pot gave me the chip lead at the table, I'd be more inclined to call. If I thought people would call me really light when I open-shoved the 1300 chips I'd have left if I lost, I'd be more inclined to fold.
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Old 04-03-2007, 02:37 AM
laikeze laikeze is offline
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Default Re: knock out the jackass?? calling with a known coin-flip

I would fold. Chances are because he is drunk you will have a better position to take his chips. I don't like a coinflip here against him. Just wait until a better oppurtunity arises
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Old 04-03-2007, 02:47 AM
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Default Re: knock out the jackass?? calling with a known coin-flip

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I would fold. Chances are because he is drunk you will have a better position to take his chips.

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Chances are better that one of the other people at the table will get them first.
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Old 04-03-2007, 03:31 AM
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Default Re: knock out the jackass?? calling with a known coin-flip

You need to put in 4050 to win 4650 so you're basically breaking even on the call.

I'd fold.
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Old 04-03-2007, 06:05 AM
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Default Re: knock out the jackass?? calling with a known coin-flip

Why bother racing against a retard, when you know you are behind?

You can get better than 50 50 down the track.

If the hands were reversed, it is a more interesting topic, because we are +ev to call, but need to reassess that +ev with what may happen down the track.
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