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Re: Opp just c/r\'d A high board
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[ QUOTE ] So much for the whole "When a LAG finally gets his stack in, he usually has the goods" motto... Just fold flop. He's a little nitty to be bluffing here a lot and he certainly isn't the type to fold an Ace if he took this line with it. [/ QUOTE ] Are we translating these stats as him making moves far less frequently than most? Do you guys see what I'm saying when I say that his line is ehhh b/c his range for c/ring a legit hand is squarely 88/22 and FD's, as 2pr and likely big aces are not is his range as he is likely 3betting these. [/ QUOTE ] Think you need a read to believe a nit will c/r an a-hi flop with air though, otherwise he still has set/fd/2-pair 100%. I don't think a guy like this will c/r the flop often at all without a read tbh. And with a fd he'll either push our call given your 3-bet size. |
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Re: Opp just c/r\'d A high board
call, $65 on turn, but don't do this to me at my tables or you'll regret it
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Re: Opp just c/r\'d A high board
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call, $65 on turn, but don't do this to me at my tables or you'll regret it [/ QUOTE ] If you're going to make a play this is the way to, yup. |
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Re: Opp just c/r\'d A high board
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call, $65 on turn, but don't do this to me at my tables or you'll regret it [/ QUOTE ] So if villain bets turn, you fold? (We are IP). Seems bad, but then I have no idea how often players like this follow up their bluffs on the turn. If they never do, this is a great line. |
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Re: Opp just c/r\'d A high board
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So much for the whole "When a LAG finally gets his stack in, he usually has the goods" motto... Just fold flop. He's a little nitty to be bluffing here a lot and he certainly isn't the type to fold an Ace if he took this line with it. [/ QUOTE ] Are we translating these stats as him making moves far less frequently than most? Do you guys see what I'm saying when I say that his line is ehhh b/c his range for c/ring a legit hand is squarely 88/22 and FD's, as 2pr and likely big aces are not is his range as he is likely 3betting these. [/ QUOTE ] Think you need a read to believe a nit will c/r an a-hi flop with air though, otherwise he still has set/fd/2-pair 100%. I don't think a guy like this will c/r the flop often at all without a read tbh. [/ QUOTE ] 0 over 900 hands. |
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Re: Opp just c/r\'d A high board
I think this is okay, and I'd call a push.
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Re: Opp just c/r\'d A high board
And to add he's probably usually folding pocket 2's preflop anyway. If he calls here I'd shutdown on a non 6 turn.
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Re: Opp just c/r\'d A high board
Against the vast majority of TAGs this is pretty much printing money. I have no idea why people advocate c/ring on A hi boards since an Ace is the least likely card to be in your OOP calling range. If you're one of the guys that calls with AK preflop and c/rs a lot, you're one level ahead and I tip my hat to you sir enjoy the stack. I've been doing this for like 50k hands or so and haven't seen anyone do this yet.
One thing that I have to add is that if you do elect to call flop to bluff the turn depends on two things 1) If the turn comes a diamond, we're done with the hand obv, people c/r bluff with equity as opposed to stone cold way more. 2) If the turn come a blank, TIMING is hugely relevant. Think of your typical decent but not great TAG sitting behind the computer thinking, 'oh yeah, he's cbetting with air so much that I can check/raise profitably ooooooh baby, [censored] he called, what the [censored] do I do now?' He then takes time to try and figure out your range, his represented range, lots of stuff, and then bluffs/doesn't bluff. Very few people at SSNL make this bluff with a multistreet plan. Turn bet in < 3 sec = autofold IMO. |
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Re: Opp just c/r\'d A high board
This really isn't as people think. If he's solid, he knows that he cannot c/c profitably with PP's that haven't hit a set. Therefore, he is forced to turn hands like 55 into bluffs if he wishes to call preflop. He never has A8/A2 here, and there just aren't that many combos of 22/88 at all. I like this.
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Re: Opp just c/r\'d A high board
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This really isn't as people think. If he's solid, he knows that he cannot c/c profitably with PP's that haven't hit a set. Therefore, he is forced to turn hands like 55 into bluffs if he wishes to call preflop. He never has A8/A2 here, and there just aren't that many combos of 22/88 at all. I like this. [/ QUOTE ] 87dd? If hero thinks [ QUOTE ] If he's solid, he knows that he cannot c/c profitably with PP's that haven't hit a set. Therefore, he is forced to turn hands like 55 into bluffs if he wishes to call preflop. [/ QUOTE ] I would think it would qualify as a read then and not describe him as a nit. Also there are ways to play pps, even 55 although more rare, in ways other then as a set or air. Majority of grinders imo at these stakes just set mine in these spots without a second thought. I don't like it very much b/c no one ever folds a flush draw when they raise and this guy could have like KQdd and not want to fold, and this guy is a described as a nit and so far has no real evidence to prove that he makes any moves at all, which many dont at SSNL. |
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