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Old 07-08-2007, 09:40 PM
canavarr canavarr is offline
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Default 25NL - flush draw turns into str8 flush draw

villains are mostly solid TAG's.
how should I play this draw, lead out flop against 4 opponents? lead turn, c/r turn? please comment on every street...

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $9.70
CO: $25.15
Button: $9.90
Hero: $25.65
BB: $9.60

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO calls, Button folds, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1, 4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1, 4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $0.75</font>, Hero calls, 2 folds.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($2.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $1.75</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $1.75 returned to CO.

Results:
Final pot: $2.5
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:41 PM
jessyj07 jessyj07 is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - flush draw turns into str8 flush draw

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villains are mostly solid TAG's.

[/ QUOTE ] the pot is not raised, so I don't think your read is correct. They might be tight but they aren't TAGs.

I'd usually bet the flop against 2 people but against 3 I don't. Bet the turn.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:49 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - flush draw turns into str8 flush draw

Betting the turn is terrible here. Check / fold
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - flush draw turns into str8 flush draw

Betting turn is very meh here, doubt it's terrible. It builds a pot with a strong draw when you have up to 15 outs if you include the King.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - flush draw turns into str8 flush draw

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villains are mostly solid TAG's.

[/ QUOTE ] the pot is not raised, so I don't think your read is correct. They might be tight but they aren't TAGs.

I'd usually bet the flop against 2 people but against 3 I don't. Bet the turn.

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CO is 21/12/2.2 (82 hands) which is the important one...
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:56 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - flush draw turns into str8 flush draw

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Betting the turn is terrible here. Check / fold

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fold? you mean fold the turn? seriously??
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Old 07-08-2007, 10:13 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - flush draw turns into str8 flush draw

I would lead the flop. Helps disguise your hand if you hit. That dictates the play of the hand. As played ch/c turn, ch/f river.
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Old 07-08-2007, 10:35 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - flush draw turns into str8 flush draw

21/12/2.2 is more weak/tight than TAG. TAG is more like 18/16/4.

As said, calling the turn is bad because you have a pretty speculative draw and the odds don't justify your call.
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Old 07-08-2007, 10:46 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - flush draw turns into str8 flush draw

change tables.

i bet flop and as played turn. rest is fine
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