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Old 10-16-2007, 06:47 PM
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"Never assume conspiracy when incompetence is a more likely answer"



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Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:49 PM
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btw I'm in Canton MI right now, went to High School there, it'd be nice to ask him about my 30k...

note: not making threats, I really would love to take a digital recorder and ask him a few questions
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:50 PM
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absolute proof isn't the point. Yes, it's possible tom is not potripper. It's *possible* no cheating has occured.

We know it is etremely, extremely likely that cheating did occur. We know it is very likely Tom is a guilty party. We know it is extremely, extremely likely that Sief is: a poker player, has met Tom, and is friends with Tom.

Given this knowledge, it makes it *more* likely that Sief is guilty of his accused cheating, than it was before we had this knowledge.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:50 PM
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Just came across something weird:

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=453919

It's some sportsbetting site I found with a user named "puremoney" (same as Scott's Myspace name), and in this post he mentions Absolute -- but does not give off the impression he's anyone major at all.

None of his other 22 posts mention Absolute, and only a couple involve poker.

What are the odds of two different "puremoney" usernames (I've only been able to find 3-4 instances of different people using this username on any types of forums/sites online) both being involved with Absolute Poker?
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:51 PM
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Guys, the above IP from the casinomeister poster looks to be allocated to the same ISP as the IP the 363 user was logged in from. Its not the same, but the same ISP.

Since its been a month or so since that tourney and you don't usually don't get a dedicated IP with a cable connection, it could definitely be the same person.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:52 PM
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Default Re: Absolute Poker Scandal: An Inside Job

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"Never assume conspiracy when incompetence is a more likely answer"



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Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity

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Thank you.

I was almost positive I didn't make this up, but I couldn't find any record of anybody else saying it. I guess I just paraphrase good.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: Absolute Poker Scandal: An Inside Job

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Just came across something weird:

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=453919

It's some sportsbetting site I found with a user named "puremoney" (same as Scott's Myspace name), and in this post he mentions Absolute -- but does not give off the impression he's anyone major at all.

None of his other 22 posts mention Absolute, and only a couple involve poker.

What are the odds of two different "puremoney" usernames (I've only been able to find 3-4 instances of different people using this username on any types of forums/sites online) both being involved with Absolute Poker?

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Update: It looks like it may be him.

"who is AK? If you dont mind me asking. And if gyno thinks i am a ghost because my number of posts, i guess i understand that. I didnt think of that. But i am not. I have just been a member at other forums, and finially signed up here. The main reason i never posted or signed up before is because most of the people are about like this. It is always drama or smart ass comments to questions. This is not the username i use on other forums and you would be surprised to who i am on those. But i am not a ghost of anyone here."

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread...41#post3839741
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: Absolute Poker Scandal: An Inside Job

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He's trying to say he's from Canton (Michigan) AND Baltimore, Mayland.

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canton is a trendy baltimore neighborhood. i just remembered a friend of mine lives there.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:54 PM
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absolute proof isn't the point. Yes, it's possible tom is not potripper. It's *possible* no cheating has occured.

We know it is etremely, extremely likely that cheating did occur. We know it is very likely Tom is a guilty party. We know it is extremely, extremely likely that Sief is: a poker player, has met Tom, and is friends with Tom.

Given this knowledge, it makes it *more* likely that Sief is guilty of his accused cheating, than it was before we had this knowledge.

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This is easily explained by coincidence, the potripper HHs and Doubledrag stats are not so easily dismissed. you have no direct evidence that Seif cheated, we do have concrete evidence that POTRIPPER cheated.

Stop trying to make a round peg fit in a square hole, you have nothing, zilch, nada on seif
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:54 PM
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I'm not convinced at all that the watchdog= scott tom (=pokermachine) . They have the same IP, but that doesn't prove anything

Also the watchdog lists his age as 26 years old which doesnt match the myspace profiles

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I haven't looked at myspace yet but I have read through a bunch of their posts and it seems pokermachine and watchdog both have the same MO in addition to IP and Scott's name is attached to pokermachine and to the potripper spreadsheet. The only real alternate theory is that someone in the household (it's a residential cable modem not the AP HQ connection which has different addresses) used his name to create forum accounts for spamming and poker accounts for cheating.
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