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Old 08-03-2007, 02:43 AM
cooker3 cooker3 is offline
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Default Re: I always feel compelled to call here.......

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Really, I very much don't.
I insta call this all day long

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I insta fold this all day long. Can you explain to me why you are calling this?

edit: I fold for this reason. Just because some guy is 50/40 and pushing every 4th hand doesn't mean you need to start calling his all-ins with marginal holdings

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I call this all day long becomes I think it is +ev to call thats why
Lets say you are up against the top 20% of hands. Why did I pick this well because I think this is a reasonable range for someone who pushes every 4 hands

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

446,911,344 games 0.005 secs 89,382,268,800 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 48.810% 48.40% 00.41% 216287506 1851198.00 { 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 1: 51.190% 50.78% 00.41% 226921442 1851198.00 { 8c8s }

So we are ahead, marginal yeah but it is still +ev and that is all that matter

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I very much doubt that villain pushes top 20%. I think villain wouldn´t know what hands could reasonably be top 20%. I think the selection is much more random.

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I agree it is probably much more random, just using 20% as guide, if we are good enough against top 20% of hands then definately think we are good enough against this guy
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:25 AM
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Default Re: I always feel compelled to call here.......

is he pushing every fourth hand over the last 12 hands, or is he pushing every fourth hand over the last 40 hands, i think there's a big difference. calling this is definitely a high variance play, i probably wait for a better spot... probably [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:45 AM
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Default Re: I always feel compelled to call here.......

Oh man, I snap call this against a lag tard. Even more so if villain has pushing a lot
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:55 AM
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Default Re: I always feel compelled to call here.......

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is he pushing every fourth hand over the last 12 hands, or is he pushing every fourth hand over the last 40 hands, i think there's a big difference. calling this is definitely a high variance play, i probably wait for a better spot... probably [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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In this type of situation, rarely do i see this last for 40 hands, the donk always gets stacked before it gets to that point....
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Old 08-03-2007, 04:28 AM
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Oh man, I snap call this against a lag tard. Even more so if villain has pushing a lot

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"Lagtard."
I love it.
Neologism of the week.

I fold and wait for a better hand to bust him with.
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Old 08-03-2007, 04:34 AM
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Default Re: I always feel compelled to call here.......

call?
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Old 08-03-2007, 06:49 AM
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Default Re: I always feel compelled to call here.......

If he's lterally shoving as much as you say, I call here all day, especially since he only has a little over 50BBs.

This guy is just asking to give his money away, I take the opportunity before someone else at the table does and he leaves. If he has one of the 6 starting hands we fear, then its no biggy, shrug and reload and let him continue to play badly with a full stack.

Those saying fold sound like they are underolled, or are afraid of variance. To hell with variance, if a call is +EV I'm making it.
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Old 08-03-2007, 07:05 AM
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Default Re: I always feel compelled to call here.......

It would be nice to know how many hands OP had observed before coming to the conclusion that he pushes every 4th hand. To me it is in practice rarther difficult to tell this exactly and that's one reason which makes me favor folding here.

Another reason is that if I call and loose I some times start tilting and try to get even with this guy. This is of course a weakness in my game.

In general I feel I'm not giving much up here by folding.
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Old 08-03-2007, 07:21 AM
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Call if you can handle variance. You are slightly ahead but you are in for a pretty bumpy ride.
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Old 08-03-2007, 08:09 AM
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i think 88's is alittle too weak, just let it go an get him with better equity vs his range a few hands later.
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