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Old 08-02-2007, 11:15 PM
mitsu1775 mitsu1775 is offline
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Why arent you fullstacked?


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for the past 22K hands or so i've been buying in short, and my ptbb/100 has went UP from around 6.5/100 to 11.2/100. Not to say that I ALWAYS buy in short now, as it really depends on the table, but i'd say to start I'll buy short about 60-75% of the time.
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:19 PM
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You are afraid to play big pots?
I bought in short because i was afraid to lose too much money.
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:23 PM
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no, i just find when i play 5 or 6 tables it makes my decisions much easier. there have been plenty of times that i'll turn 20 into 120+, but that doesn't mean i'm just getting up and leaving the table, especially if there's a couple of donks at the table who are just spewing chips. If i sit down and there is somebody like in the above example, then yes, i'll buy in full so i can get full value out of stacking them. The hand above just so happened to be like the 4th hand at the table.
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Old 08-03-2007, 01:31 AM
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cooker i think taking coinflips is not the way to go in cashgames imo. Therefore i think both ways are fine. Neither instacalling nor instafolding is right.

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How is this a coinflip? Did you not read the OP? You donīt think hands like 55 and A2 are in villains range? I think 88 does very well against a guy who pushes every fourth hand.
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Old 08-03-2007, 01:36 AM
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Really, I very much don't.
I insta call this all day long

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I insta fold this all day long. Can you explain to me why you are calling this?

edit: I fold for this reason. Just because some guy is 50/40 and pushing every 4th hand doesn't mean you need to start calling his all-ins with marginal holdings

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I call this all day long becomes I think it is +ev to call thats why
Lets say you are up against the top 20% of hands. Why did I pick this well because I think this is a reasonable range for someone who pushes every 4 hands

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

446,911,344 games 0.005 secs 89,382,268,800 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 48.810% 48.40% 00.41% 216287506 1851198.00 { 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 1: 51.190% 50.78% 00.41% 226921442 1851198.00 { 8c8s }

So we are ahead, marginal yeah but it is still +ev and that is all that matter

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I very much doubt that villain pushes top 20%. I think villain wouldnīt know what hands could reasonably be top 20%. I think the selection is much more random.
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Old 08-03-2007, 01:41 AM
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every 4th hand? snap call
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Old 08-03-2007, 01:48 AM
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every 4th hand? snap call

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What's your calling range here? are you making this call with any pair or medium+?
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Old 08-03-2007, 01:55 AM
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probably sevens+ at+
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Old 08-03-2007, 02:30 AM
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to some of the other posters: it's not really about taking coinflips in cash games, it's whether or not you can be confident enough in your read and ranges to make this anything more than a marginal call.
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Old 08-03-2007, 02:43 AM
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if he shoves every 4 hands, this cant be anything but +ev call
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