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Old 09-16-2007, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: AA on messy flop? I c/r all-in sir(s).

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seriously, how can you think your AA is still good after a bet, call and a overcall... You are so beat

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Because the board is suited and three to a straight?
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: AA on messy flop? I c/r all-in sir(s).

wow fold
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: AA on messy flop? I c/r all-in sir(s).

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This is not awful.

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Old 09-16-2007, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: AA on messy flop? I c/r all-in sir(s).

At first I thought this was pretty bad, as in I'd rather just fold the flop when it gets back round to you but given how the preflop action has gone down a set seems relatively unlikely so I don't hate the shove as a semibluff.

If you do get called you don't really have any outs if you are behind, but some percentage of the time you might get called and be up against a combo draw and there's plenty of dead money in the pot to make this a worthwhile raise for protection/semibluff.

I think it is much more likely that the overcallers are calling light with draws than slowplaying a hand that has you crushed. Then again this is just about the worst flop possible for AA.
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: AA on messy flop? I c/r all-in sir(s).

it's possible you're ahead and it's possible villain's have each other's outs

i think it's pretty close, it's better than an open shove though, imo

i think folding to a bet and then a raise is fine, and this is very marginal
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:44 PM
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Default Re: AA on messy flop? I c/r all-in sir(s).

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As played with the strong UTG bet and 2 callers I'm just calling, and I really don't like my hand one bit. Seriously I'd rather fold in this spot than shove.

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Dno why I said I'd played as call lol, that would be terrible.
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:44 PM
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Default Re: AA on messy flop? I c/r all-in sir(s).

i like it. i think you can get called by draws all over the place which helps make up for the times you are against T9 which you do have some equity against
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: AA on messy flop? I c/r all-in sir(s).

I sigh and fold pretty fast. This flop is all kinds of ugly. I don't know how many times I've overplayed AA in these spots, but it rarely works out.
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:20 PM
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i like it. i think you can get called by draws all over the place which helps make up for the times you are against T9 which you do have some equity against

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there are more combos of QJ and 76 than T9 or any other 2 pair
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: AA on messy flop? I c/r all-in sir(s).

I c/f flop.
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