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Old 09-13-2007, 04:59 PM
markbris markbris is offline
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Default Button with CO limper and JTs $4.40

This is exactly one orbit after the previous hand I posted with 44. In that hand it turned out that CO had limped Q10o from CO, this hand he limps again in CO, openlimping this time though. Take advantage here in anyway?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com

BB (t2805)
UTG (t10016)
MP1 (t1330)
MP2 (t12122)
CO (t15632)
Hero (t8208)
SB (t20736)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls t600, Hero ?
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Old 09-13-2007, 05:08 PM
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Default Re: Button with CO limper and JTs $4.40

I think you need a little more info than just one hand. Any HUD stats on this guy?
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Old 09-13-2007, 05:10 PM
BarryLyndon BarryLyndon is offline
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Default Re: Button with CO limper and JTs $4.40

Mark,

CO has proven that he likes to limp with hands and that he's a vagina, so push here, as he will have a hard time calling half his stack and he already build up the pot so it's 1500 + antes + you have FE + dominating hands rarely ever call your push here (AJ raises, I suspect KJ and QJ fold).

This is a much easier push, IMO, than the 44 hand.

Barry
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Old 09-13-2007, 05:33 PM
DerrtySlime DerrtySlime is offline
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Default Re: Button with CO limper and JTs $4.40

dont push. limp behind and make good use of your position in the hand. Players at this level rarely limp/ fold.
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Old 09-13-2007, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: Button with CO limper and JTs $4.40

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dont push. limp behind and make good use of your position in the hand. Players at this level rarely limp/ fold.

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We could take advantage of position if we had deeper stacks. Also, a limp might induce a nice raise from the SB which blows.

I'd shove.
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Old 09-13-2007, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: Button with CO limper and JTs $4.40

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This is exactly one orbit after the previous hand I posted with 44. In that hand it turned out that CO had limped Q10o from CO, this hand he limps again in CO, openlimping this time though. Take advantage here in anyway?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com

BB (t2805)
UTG (t10016)
MP1 (t1330)
MP2 (t12122)
CO (t15632)
Hero (t8208)
SB (t20736)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls t600, Hero ?

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I just call. BB will prob shove a wide range here. Not sure if CO will call 2200 then fold if we shove for 5K more...if there's a chance that he folds to either BB shove, or our shove if he calls BB...then calling is better than shoving here.
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Old 09-13-2007, 09:01 PM
BarryLyndon BarryLyndon is offline
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Default Re: Button with CO limper and JTs $4.40

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dont push. limp behind and make good use of your position in the hand. Players at this level rarely limp/ fold.

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This is late and your stack kinduv sucks. You have FE against KJ / QJ, two definite candidates. The player with 25K is going to make your life miserable if he comes along for the ride. Jh10h isn't that strong a hand with three cards to come, despite the obvious misconception. If BB calls, you're OK against Arags or small pairs because of what's already in the pot.

Barry
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Old 09-14-2007, 02:28 AM
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Default Re: Button with CO limper and JTs $4.40

Easy shove for me. I love it when I can recognize a limp/folder on my table late in a tourney. Abuse, abuse, abuse.
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Old 09-14-2007, 03:02 AM
Chesskid1 Chesskid1 is offline
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Default Re: Button with CO limper and JTs $4.40

id rather push A2, K9+ here. i just fold and wait for a better spot.
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:42 AM
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Default Re: Button with CO limper and JTs $4.40

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id rather push A2, K9+ here. i just fold and wait for a better spot.

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Will QT limper call a push? What about SB? BB pretty much has to call which may bring CO along.

You don't have implied odds to limp because your stack is small. You don't have first in vig and CO may be willing to call with a hand that dominates you. With less FE Jack high is not really a hand I want to go to war with. I also favor folding and wait for a better spot.
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