9mm vs. .45 ACP

[Blarg]

[ QUOTE ]
9mm has higher capacity magazines.

"Stopping power" is largely irrelevent when you have 18 rounds in the gun.

[/ QUOTE ]

I wouldn't go that far. If you're being shot at too, you need to land your hits firstest and mostest. Plus, you don't want to shoot up the neighborhood, especially if you have kids in the house.

[amplify]

[ QUOTE ]
9mm ammo is going to be MUCH cheaper

[/ QUOTE ]
This is an important consideration if you plan to practice at the range a lot. .45 ball ammo is expensive as hell.

[Ron Burgundy]

[ QUOTE ]
You might want to ask yourself too, what kind of action do you want, single or double?

[/ QUOTE ]

What's the difference?

[JasonK]

I'd go with a .50 cal that lights up the night so you can see what you just shot.

[amplify]

[ QUOTE ]
I'd go with a .50 cal that lights up the night so you can see what you just shot.



[/ QUOTE ]

I have shot one of these, gave me a good jolt. If you fired one indoors without ear protection you would be deaf for a good while.

[szw]

" Glock 30 is everything you could ever want in a handgun. 10 rounds of .45 caliber stopping power, 100% reliability, and extreme accuracy out of the box. "

How much maintenance is required for something like this?

[Alamo]

Just what it says. Me being european, I honestly don't understand what makes people buy a gun for self-defense. Must be cultural or something.

I am convinced that walking around with a gun, or having a gun at your direct disposal gets a lot of people into a mess.
When one does not have the gun at his or her disposal one might be more prudent in iffy situations.

Don't get me wrong, I am not judging you. I was in the States (I presume you are from the United States) myself two years ago, and my late uncle took me to a shooting range to shoot clay pigeons, which was great fun.

I was baffled though when on the right side of where we stood there were some dudes shooting with high tech rifles at targets pretty far away. I got into a convo with one of them, and when I asked them what else they would shoot at, they told me they would go hunting with them.
With a rifle that pops you a third eye at a distance of a mile prolly.

I honestly have a hard time understanding this part of american society, and I am on of those persons that thinks that the more guns are out there, the more people will get into a mess thanks to them.

Anyway, not trying to hijack your thread, and certainly not trying to make this a political thread, nor a Europe vs. USA thread.

Out of curiosity, you state you want this gun for self defense, is there any situation in your surroundings that might provoke having to defend yourself?

[The once and future king]

Meh mere guns are for pussies.

What if a robber or even pirates comes packing a tank. What if there is a societal breakdown and everything becomes mad max esque:

Panzerfaust 3.

Tina Turner aint gona feck with you if you have one of these babies.

[Borodog]

Oh yeah. Don't buy a 9mm or a .45 at all if you're not going to spend a lot of time on maintenance. Lots of moving parts FTL. Get a revolver, like a .38 or .357.

[kkcountry]

pm phill s. he knows his guns.