*** OFFICIAL 11/11/07 NFL AFTERNOON GAME THREAD ***

[rsigley]

lions line reminds me of last year when oakland who was horrible opened as -1 favorite against rams (who were average last year) and stayed there

and eveyrone was like how and bet oakland thinking it was a trap

then oakland lost 20-0

[kyro]

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lions line reminds me of last year when oakland who was horrible opened as -1 favorite against rams (who were average last year) and stayed there

and eveyrone was like how and bet oakland thinking it was a trap

then oakland lost 20-0

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Except Detroit and Arizona are pretty similar.

[cata1yst]

I can't see how Detroit loses this game. I was shocked they weren't favored. Their defense will keep them in this one with multiple turnovers. Also, I think Detroit has a ton of offensive weapons that a lot of people don't think about. I am going with Detroit ML.

[Tyler Durden]

What do you think of this teaser: NYG +7.5 and over 43?

thanks much.

[kyro]

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What do you think of this teaser: NYG +7.5 and over 43?

thanks much.

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I don't like it much, as I feel the true line for the game should be closer to -3.5/4

[Nonfiction]

I'm on DAL and OAK for a unit each

[Machmood]

Everyone seems agree that detroit it about a half point/point favorite to Zona, yet people are taking AZ when Lions are as high as 1.5 dog at some books, doesnt make any sense. Anyway here are my picks for this week.....

Lions +1.5 -110
Indy- 3.5 +110 (THATS RIGHT!!)
Dallas -1 -110

[kyro]

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Everyone seems agree that detroit it about a half point/point favorite to Zona, yet people are taking AZ when Lions are as high as 1.5 dog at some books, doesnt make any sense.

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I think Detroit is .5-1 point favorite on a neutral field. But the game's in Arizona.

I'm thinking about betting the over in this game as well. Both teams can pass. Neither team can run (though Detroit has done better as of late). Both teams can defend the run, but neither team can defend the pass. This game should be an air show.

Thoughts?

[kyro]

Went ahead and add 1u on Det/Ari Over 45.0

Both Detroit and Arizona are:

1) Scoring more than their opponents are giving up in their other games

2) Giving up more than their opponents are scoring in their other games.

Arizona's last three totals have been 35/40/27, but that was WITH Rattay against a low scoring Carolina squad, against Washington who is all D, no O, and against Tampa, who despite having an efficient offense, doesn't put up many points, as well as having a good defense. Interestingly enough, Arizona's 3 highest totals of the year came in games they won, for whatever that's worth.

Detroit's last 4 totals have been 37/39/23/51, but once again, the first three were against Washington and Tampa (recognize a trend?), and a fluky low-scoring game against Chicago, (against who they had a total of 74 earlier in the year).

The line reflects a slightly above-average scoring game. But we have two averagish offenses who love to pass against below averagish defenses who can't stop the pass. I expect the total to be somewhere in the low-mid 50s.

[TooTallT]

Line STILL moving toward Arizona (-1 -113 now on Pinny) despite huge Lions public bias.