check the turn??

[Alex424]

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4

Again no reads unfortunately - new to site

9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7.5SB, 3 players)
MP2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.75BB, 2 players)
MP3 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8.75BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 10.75BB

[James.]

you can't check the turn with such a drawy board. i'm not sold on calling the river, but if it is wrong it isn't by much.

[Grease]

I agree with James.

I only check this turn if I don't like money. That said, I don't think you're ahead after the turn C/R, and I think I could find a fold on the river.

[HoneyBadger]

You can probably fold the turn, but it's a little dangerous for future hands. Definitely fold the river. (I'm pretty sure he had QJ, and his reasoning here is this: Hero will probably bet, then I can raise everyone. Oh, but the other guy folds, now I'll wait for a non-diamond turn and then check-raise him)

[Grease]

The main reason why I wouldn't fold the turn outright is I think it might start making other players take shots at you.

You could be behind to two pair, which means you have a fair amount of outs, and you have outs against a straight (only to tie, but it still helps.)

A river call is a clear mistake, I agree.

[HoneyBadger]

Also, even if he was bluffing he now probably hit his flush...

[benwood]

When he check-raises you on the turn,he's saying that feels good against your range,which includesAA,KK,1010,&amp; AK.In other words,he thinks that you could easily have a better hand,but he still thinks that he has you beat.

If you think that this particular player doesn't have enough game to be semi-bluffing,then folding,either on the turn or river,is right,imo.

The river laydown becomes easier after a diamond hits,because,like HoneyBadger indicated,a lot of the possible semi-bluffs contain a diamond draw,&amp; it got there.

[JJH3984]

Is calling the river really "clearly wrong" against an unknown? It may be wrong, but as James said, it isn't by much.

[paperjam]

against an unknown, i will call for information and table image