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08-15-2007, 10:07 AM
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Re: The New York Back Raise...25/50 Live
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I predict the results; hero called and lost to AA, KK or AK. [/ QUOTE ] mdma, you should be a fortune teller 
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#13
08-15-2007, 10:19 AM
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Re: The New York Back Raise...25/50 Live
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when i was a relatively inexperienced bigger live NL player, I fell for the backraise a few times, and shoved random stuff in pretty much the same spot as the kid here (though giving worse odds on the call) because I didn't buy it. Each time I was shown a big pair. So I'd stack off here, he's probably just confused. But i'd give him more rope in the first place probably. [/ QUOTE ] The one problem is how many people he has to shove against. He has literally 3 other callers between me and him, so when he shoves v. my back raise, he has to assume his hand is good enough to beat all 3 other hands, including my hand. Is this any consideration to a fold? When I raised, I decided I would be best off folding to a shove (because of the reason stated above), but when I chose the amount, I laid myself such a sick price that I had to call.
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#14
08-15-2007, 10:20 AM
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Re: The New York Back Raise...25/50 Live
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how would you have played the 97ss dave..i gave up on the river..i bet the flop incase he floats with kings and the 5 on the turn makes a full for both of us but i most likely have an ace if i bet the turn but im not sure what do u think [/ QUOTE ] I would give up after you get called on that flop. He is never folding if he calls the flop.
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#15
08-15-2007, 10:20 AM
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and btw what did u have in the hand where it was 8jk with 2 diamonds cause i had 87 where the dude on ur left made a 1k donk bet and u called and i made it 4k [/ QUOTE ] I had A10dd.
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08-15-2007, 10:35 AM
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Re: The New York Back Raise...25/50 Live
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The one problem is how many people he has to shove against. He has literally 3 other callers between me and him, so when he shoves v. my back raise, he has to assume his hand is good enough to beat all 3 other hands, including my hand. Is this any consideration to a fold? When I raised, I decided I would be best off folding to a shove (because of the reason stated above), but when I chose the amount, I laid myself such a sick price that I had to call. [/ QUOTE ] I think that the players inbetween, given the action, must be a non-consideration as far as he's concerned. The original opener who made it $400 is the only slightly remote possibility that he has to worry about, and after he flat calls the orginal button reraise to $1500 after the players inbetween come along, he almost never has a hand to stack off with. He shoves only worrying about action from your hand and he knows it. None of the other players are ever coming along here.
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08-15-2007, 11:01 AM
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Re: The New York Back Raise...25/50 Live
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u dont think he might float with 10's or something and then give up if i bet the turn when the 5 hits [/ QUOTE ] not that particular player. v. other players at the table, i would double and triple barrel.
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