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Old 11-20-2007, 01:09 PM
CalledDownLight CalledDownLight is offline
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Default Re: 1/2: Thought it was a Cooler

When I said that I don't like the 3bet I mean that I don't like it against karl. I think its fine as a standard vs. unknowns.
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Old 11-20-2007, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: 1/2: Thought it was a Cooler

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When I said that I don't like the 3bet I mean that I don't like it against karl. I think its fine as a standard vs. unknowns.

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What would say his calling range would be vs a 3bet OOP?
I've only played a few hands with him but I reckon it would be prety tight.
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Old 11-20-2007, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: 1/2: Thought it was a Cooler

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When I said that I don't like the 3bet I mean that I don't like it against karl. I think its fine as a standard vs. unknowns.

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What would say his calling range would be vs a 3bet OOP?
I've only played a few hands with him but I reckon it would be prety tight.

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Probably most pairs and AK. Maybe AQ. I don't have a ton of hands vs. him though. Occasionally a AXs.
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: 1/2: Thought it was a Cooler

This is a very good spot to check behind on the flop.

Why do you think it makes a difference whether you pot the flop or bet 40 as you did?
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: 1/2: Thought it was a Cooler

if you 3bet AJ and hit TPTK you can't fold. if you're 3betting someone who is only shoving the nuts on this flop, don't 3bet AJ.

gg.
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: 1/2: Thought it was a Cooler

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When I said that I don't like the 3bet I mean that I don't like it against karl. I think its fine as a standard vs. unknowns.

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Karl is one of the more aggressive raising regs at ps 1/2.
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: 1/2: Thought it was a Cooler

Wow at all the nitty advice here.

Anything other than bet/call on this flop is just horrible. And why would you want to bet pot? It screams "overpair" so villain is less likely to shove worse.

Totally standard hand.
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Old 11-20-2007, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: 1/2: Thought it was a Cooler

A Villain check-shoving 99 or air here is very nonstandard. Come up with a reasonable shoving range for which calling a shove is not ~break-even or worse for us.
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Old 11-20-2007, 05:25 PM
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A Villain check-shoving 99 or air here is very nonstandard. Come up with a reasonable shoving range for which calling a shove is not ~break-even or worse for us.

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Let's see, random pocket pairs and flush draws?

Anything other than bet/call is just bad, I mean what flop were you hoping for? K-Q-T? If bet/calling this flop is not profitable, then don't 3-bet this pf.
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Old 11-20-2007, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: 1/2: Thought it was a Cooler

So like standard for TAG Villain to flat-call a reraise for 15% of his stack OOP with pocket 4s and then check-shove when he misses?
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