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#11
11-11-2007, 06:37 PM
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Re: NL50: b/f or c/c or c/f river?
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I bet flop thinking he would raise me wiht any ace since i had been pushing them around. so my flop bet was with intent to b3b all in. of course that did not work lol. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think leading, hoping to get raised, works as much at these levels because the players aren't aggressive enough. I also feel that a weaker lead, say 1/2 pot, is more likely to get raised than a 3/4 pot bet. When players are unsure they usually just call down. 
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#13
11-11-2007, 07:40 PM
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Re: NL50: b/f or c/c or c/f river?
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You have 1/2 pot left on the river against a fish who'll call with 2 pair. Shoving is fine and standard. [/ QUOTE ]
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#15
11-11-2007, 08:20 PM
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Re: NL50: b/f or c/c or c/f river?
yeah i suck at typing out all the contextual clues but i am getting better at it.
edit: i guess the biggest clue i left out is he is not likely to view me as someone who folds due to some prior hands leading into this one. he was one to pay attention as he commented on my play in a hand about 5 before this telling me how i suck for not folding my overpair. and he was right about that one too so i had the stack off ez image going i guess you could say.
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#17
11-11-2007, 10:07 PM
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Re: NL50: b/f or c/c or c/f river?
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well you haven't given us much of a read, but i'm not folding. shove or c/c are both fine imo depending on how aggressive you think he is. [/ QUOTE ] shove > c/c. not close.
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#18
11-11-2007, 10:12 PM
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Re: NL50: b/f or c/c or c/f river?
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[ QUOTE ] well you haven't given us much of a read, but i'm not folding. shove or c/c are both fine imo depending on how aggressive you think he is. [/ QUOTE ] shove > c/c. not close. [/ QUOTE ] guess i did get the river right at least. flop c/r is going to be better but at the time i thought donking flop would get him to raise me which would make him more inclined to call when i raised back. i had been betting a lot of flops, probably almost all of them.
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#19
11-12-2007, 04:59 AM
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Re: NL50: b/f or c/c or c/f river?
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[ QUOTE ] well you haven't given us much of a read, but i'm not folding. shove or c/c are both fine imo depending on how aggressive you think he is. [/ QUOTE ] shove > c/c. not close. [/ QUOTE ] you know it would really help if you gave some reasoning occasionally. i would shove given the info in the OP because he's likely to call but check a lot of hands, but i could certainly imagine some villains against whom a c/c would be optimal (those who think you have a king if you shove and fold their worse hands while betting a wide range if you check).
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