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Old 10-06-2007, 06:21 PM
Zagga Zagga is offline
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Default 50nl, T9o with big draw. line check.

I have no converter for everest poker, so I tried to make it myself. Sorry for no fancy colors and stuff like that.

Comments on all streets are very appreciated.

UTG is a typical donk: 51.5/1.35/1.79
BTN isn’t much better: 55.38/7.69/1.15

Seat 1: MP($97.95)
Seat 2: CO ($65.40)
Seat 3: BTN ($49.50)
Seat 4: HERO ($75.63)
Seat 5: BB ($54.05)
Seat 6: UTG ($86.49)

Hero is SB with Th9d

Preflop:
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.25, BB checks.
<font color="blue"> I usually play very thight in the SB and fold most hands (including AJ). But since everyone has limped I am getting 11-1 odds to call, witch is enough to try and flop a straigth, 2 pair or trips. With quite a few loose passives on the table to pay me out when I hit. </font>

Flop ($3.00): 9hJhQh
Hero bets $2.50, BB fold, UTG calls, 2 folds, BTN calls.
<font color="blue"> I hit bottom pair, and an openended straigthflush draw. However with 6 man in the pot a flush is not unlinkely. I have to bet out here, and will probadly fold to a big raise. </font>

Turn ($10,50): 9hJhQh Kd
Hero bets $7, UTG calls, BTN calls.
<font color="blue"> I made my straigth, however I can still be behind on a made flush. I need to bet out here to get value out of draws and worse hands and to see where I'm at, at a raise I probadly fold, especially with these passive guys. Do I bet enough while having two stations behind me? </font>

River ($31,50): 9hJhQh Kd 2h
Hero bets $10, UTG raises to $20, BTN calls, Hero folds.
<font color="blue"> I make the 3rd nut flush, but since both villains played the hand as a draw I expect to be behind here. I consider check-folding but seeing these guy's stats they could have been calling with a pair and low hearth kicker or 2 pair. I decide to bet-fold to see where I'm at and maximise value out of worse hands. Is this smart? Or should I just give up. After the minraise and the call I get 7-1 to call but I never expect to be ahead here so I fold. </font>
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Old 10-07-2007, 03:20 AM
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Default Re: 50nl, T9o with big draw. line check.

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Old 10-07-2007, 04:31 AM
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Default Re: 50nl, T9o with big draw. line check.

Actually, I don't think a flop bet is good here. Check and see what develops. There are simply too many people in the pot for your hand to have the equity you'd like; it's not good enough for protection to be a factor; and your "outs" are all seriously compromised (except for two of 'em).

It's not your normal pair flus draw flop by a long margin.
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Old 10-07-2007, 04:36 AM
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Default Re: 50nl, T9o with big draw. line check.

You dont have a hand and your straight flush draw is worth nothing without the two outers. Why do you have to bet out?
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Old 10-07-2007, 06:12 AM
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Default Re: 50nl, T9o with big draw. line check.

tl;dr converter please
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Old 10-07-2007, 06:22 AM
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Default Re: 50nl, T9o with big draw. line check.

lol @ folding AJ from the blinds....

betting out here sucks. I think another 9 is the best turn we can hope for...

C/F the flop. No Joke.
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Old 10-07-2007, 06:33 AM
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Default Re: 50nl, T9o with big draw. line check.

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lol @ folding AJ from the blinds....

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Thinking before posting never hurt nobody.
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Old 10-07-2007, 06:36 AM
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Default Re: 50nl, T9o with big draw. line check.

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lol @ folding AJ from the blinds....

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Thinking before posting never hurt nobody.

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Now sure what this means... but I was making a lose refernce to this thread

My advice on the actual hand was genuine, and fwiw I think by a mile the best line.
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Old 10-07-2007, 06:41 AM
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Default Re: 50nl, T9o with big draw. line check.

There is nothing wrong with folding AJ from the blinds.
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Old 10-07-2007, 06:47 AM
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Default Re: 50nl, T9o with big draw. line check.

If you are not a great player post flop, folding AJ is most likely +EV from the blinds.
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