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NL 200 on FT. Bad river against a mega-fish. Call or fold?
Villain is horrible, 68/3/.79. Seems like I'm beat on the river, but the odds are good. Call or muck?
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter) SB: $388.00 BB: $78.00 UTG: $689.55 UTG+1: $195.00 Hero (MP1): $209.30 MP2: $200.00 CO: $2.00 BTN: $310.35 MP2 posts $2.00 Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (8 Players) UTG calls $2.00, UTG+1 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10.00</font>, 5 folds, UTG calls $8.00 Flop: ($25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">UTG bets $15.00</font>, Hero calls $15.00 Turn: ($55) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $40.00</font>, UTG calls $40.00 River: ($135) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">UTG bets $50.00</font>, Hero ? |
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Re: NL 200 on FT. Bad river against a mega-fish. Call or fold?
very low aggression so it doesnt seem like he bluffs especially on the river and he is either bluffing or has you beat.
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Re: NL 200 on FT. Bad river against a mega-fish. Call or fold?
I raise the flop.
As played I call river, but not thrilled about it. |
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Re: NL 200 on FT. Bad river against a mega-fish. Call or fold?
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I raise the flop. As played I call river, but not thrilled about it. [/ QUOTE ] Against most players I would raise the flop, but against a guy like this I often prefer calling. I just think it's one of those situations where it's better to value bet the fish than try to bluff them. I think I get more value by making a hand here, especially since I have so many outs on the flop. Are you suggesting a raise on the flop for a free card, or to try to win the pot? |
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Re: NL 200 on FT. Bad river against a mega-fish. Call or fold?
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I raise the flop. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree, villain seems like a calling station so FE is pretty small here. |
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Re: NL 200 on FT. Bad river against a mega-fish. Call or fold?
FE doesn't matter.
You're ahead of 95% of his possible holdings % wise. Get it in while it's good. |
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Re: NL 200 on FT. Bad river against a mega-fish. Call or fold?
raise flop so you can push the Q turn.
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Re: NL 200 on FT. Bad river against a mega-fish. Call or fold?
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FE doesn't matter. You're ahead of 95% of his possible holdings % wise. Get it in while it's good. [/ QUOTE ] Not necessarily. If he has a pair, I'm technically ahead but it's basically a coinflip. 95% is way too high an estimate. Hands like A9 or Q9 are part of his range, and I'm a dog to them. I maintain that against a guy like this, it's better to make a hand and value bet than to try to push him off his hand. I have a hand with huge value-bet potential if the right card comes. |
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Re: NL 200 on FT. Bad river against a mega-fish. Call or fold?
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FE doesn't matter. You're ahead of 95% of his possible holdings % wise. Get it in while it's good. [/ QUOTE ] No. our objective is to get better hands to fold OR stack villain when we hit and lose the least when we dont. basically FE and implied odds. And i think villain has a strong draw or made hand here, because of his low agg factor. |
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Re: NL 200 on FT. Bad river against a mega-fish. Call or fold?
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very low aggression so it doesnt seem like he bluffs especially on the river and he is either bluffing or has you beat. [/ QUOTE ] .79 isn't low at all. I definitely call here. |
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