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Old 03-15-2007, 12:00 AM
HOWMANY HOWMANY is offline
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Default Strategy+BBV all in one hand?

Villain is leebuki, for some reason I thought he was not terrible before this. 4th street donker is the fish that I'm in the game for. Normally I don't include results, but as you will see this one is worthy of an EL OH EL CASHAMENTS

7 Card Stud High-Low ($30/$60), Ante $5, Bring-In $10 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.33 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises
Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls
Seat 5: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 8: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls

4th Street - (6.33 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls

5th Street - (5.67 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___calls

6th Street - (15.67 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls___folds
Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___folds
Seat 8: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___raises___raises

River - (26.67 BB)

Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 8: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___bets___calls

Total pot: (30.67 BB)

Results (in white):<font color="white">

Total pot $1840 | Rake $3

Hero: [4h Ac 2s Qs 3c 5s Js] (HI: a straight, Ace to Five; LO: 5,4,3,2,A)

Seat 8: [8h Ah Jh Kc Kh Ks Qh] (HI: a flush, Ace high)

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Old 03-15-2007, 12:26 AM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: Strategy+BBV all in one hand?

Fold fourth. I don't see how his bet qualifies as a "donk."
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Old 03-15-2007, 12:29 AM
HOWMANY HOWMANY is offline
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Default Re: Strategy+BBV all in one hand?

Really? I fold 4th a ton in this game even when I think it's "correct" to call 1 bet because people are usually smart enough to jam peelers in, but it looks like it won't be happening here.
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Old 03-15-2007, 06:00 AM
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Default Re: Strategy+BBV all in one hand?

I think I reraise 3rd too
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Old 03-15-2007, 08:09 AM
Micturition Man Micturition Man is offline
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Default Re: Strategy+BBV all in one hand?

You should definitely not fold 4th for one bet.

I'm interested in the idea of a jam on 5th with the best low draw. If you think you will get 5 way action I think it has to be +EV, in itself, even if you think you are drawing dead for high.

But it may just eliminate a worse low draw and you don't want that on 5th when you are in bad shape for high.

I'm curious what other people think about jamming 5th with the best low draw against two other low draws, in general.

(On fourth this is a great spot because your best low draw has a lot more equity - and also on 4th you would want a worse low draw to fold so you don't get driven out or jammed in on a later street, plus you usually have some high equity on.)
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Old 03-15-2007, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: Strategy+BBV all in one hand?

I fold 4th. I re-raise 3rd. The rest is fine.
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Old 03-15-2007, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: Strategy+BBV all in one hand?

With perfect low hole cards on Five, can someone who plays this game all the time please tell me why this is not an automatic value raise?
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