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Old 10-28-2007, 08:46 PM
NicksDad1970 NicksDad1970 is offline
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I don't get as many opportunities to go to Tunica as I did before so even though I wasn't in the best of moods I had the chance to head to Tunica for Saturday night.

I was trying to decide between The Gold Strike and Sam's Town. I had never stayed at Sam's Town before but I decided on there because I was going to play in their 7pm 60 entry tourney.

Now when I stay at The GS I get the poker rate ($50) instantly. I don't have to worry about X # hours.

Anyway so I check in at ST and their initial rate was near $200 which was pretty much insane but I give em the cash knowing I'll get the PR.

So I get to the poker room, sign up for the 7 pm tourney, and sit down at a 1-3NL table. BTW - It's 6pmish so I only have an hour to play.

I sit down and I know about 3 people including Woody who some people on here know. About 10 hands into it I look down in UTG+2 and see 2 black aces. I raise WAY too little for this game to 12 bucks. The next guy says raise instantly and throws out $30. I've played with him before and I don't think he has it in him to raise in that situation without a premium hand. So I think he's got KK or even AA. It gets back to me with a few hesitation folds making me wonder if anyone is folding an ace. So I think for a while and say how I don't like the situation that I'm in yada yada. I say "well I can't fold so I guess I'll raise it up to 100." (He had about 125 left). He pushes instantly I call and he shows QQ. My aces hold up and I'm up a lil over 150 in 5 minutes.

I make the comment about how tight I am and get Woody to say how tight I was and he was folding anything but AA there.

5 to 10 hands later it's limped to me with AhJd and I limp because I'm a sissy. The board comes Kh 3h 10h. Oh, I'm in MP with 3 others. It's checked to me as I check thinking about CR depending on the bet. Next guy checks and a lady bets $10 into like a 13 pot. First guy folds I call and the next guy calls. The turn is the Ac. I check next guy checks, and the lady bets 20. I call and the next guy calls without hesitation. The river brings the 9h. I bet 60 with the 2nd nuts and both call! One shows the Jh and the lady shows the Qh.

I play a few more small hands and quit up $360 in 45 minutes. I get my credit of 1 hour play towards my 5 needed for the poker rate and off to the tourney I go.

I sit down at the tourney with 88 people entered (500 added). I am card friggin dead for an hour. I mean about as bad as I've seen. I told my wife I was going to play loose to accumulate chips or go play a cash game so I could get my 4 more hours (tourney time doesn't count).

The first hand that I played (besides a check to my bb which I eventually fold) I look down at 99 and I raise it up to 450 (blinds were 75-150) and I get one caller. The flop comes 8-9-10 rainbow and I bet 1100 with about 1250 left. (we all started with 3k). The other guy pushes with the exact amount I have and I call. He shows 66 and my set holds up.

Next hand I play is 20 minutes later and I called a 450 raise with AKos. Flop blank he bets big and I fold. Then I start getting some decent cards, calling or mini raising, not hitting crap but betting and everyone folding.

I still have an ultra tight image (I think) and I raise in MP with AJ which I normally don't like and another guy goes all in for like 2500 (I had bet PF 900, when blinds were 150-300 25 ante) I didn't want to call but I had to with ATC. He shows AJ as well and we chop.

I'm up to 8k in chips and after we color up the green I'm in the BB with 500-1000 blinds 100 ante. I tell my wife how much I hate this situation because if someone goes all in for 3k or less I pretty much have to call blind.

Sure enough my bb 2 guys go all in for 2800 and 2500. I call blind and flip Q5, I'm against KQ and AK yay! I hit a 5 on the turn and an A hits on the river. Now I'm at 5kish with the SB. Same deal with SB I'm committed to another small stack and I lose.

Next hand I get 66 and go all in against AA. I'm out after some pretty good playing until the blinds forced me (I think......opinions on what I feel are calls blind?)

Ok so now I'm tired as can be and I still have 4 hours more to play to get my time. For me NLHE is much more stressful and taxing than LHE. Keep in mind I'm talking abour 3-6 HE vs 1-3 NLHE.

My wife says she's hungry and I tell her once I sit for 10 min or so we'll go eat and that time will count towards my play. I don't like to sit and leave the table ASAP to go eat but I was in a deal I didn't like.

Surprisingly enough I ask for a comp for 2 to Smokey Bones and they give it to me ($30 max). SB is like an order off the menu dedent type place. Anything from burgers to Alaskan crap legs. I get the Corky's BBQ buffet and it was pretty bad. My wife had a house salad and it looked much better. We both had dessert and it was pretty good. The total was 40 bucks. So I'm out 19 inclusing tip.

I go back and tell myself I'm going to be Capt. Tight arse at the table. These 3-6 HE tables are crazy late at night on weekends (or prolly all the time). I mean people calling with inside str8 draws to the river after multiple raises. When they hit they get berated and then the little arguments go on and on.

I only had one memorable hand in LHE. I'm in the BB and I check w/o looking. The flop was 9-8-8. I check (again w/o looking) and next guy bets and the only other guy in the pot raises. I look at the first card and it's an 8. I call and the next guy calls (I've only looked at 1 card.) The turn is a 7. So now I'm thinking I'm going to have someone hit a str8 on me and I deserve it. I check next guy bets next guy raises and I look at my other card and it's a 10. I call. The river is the case 8. There's no FD out there and I bet 6. The next guy calls and the next guy raises. yeehaw! I look at him and tell him "I don't think he has the 9 so I'll raise". So I raise and both guys call. First passive guy has KK and the raiser has A9.

I play my 4 hours, go to the room and lay down on the worst mattress I've been on since Korea.

If I don't make sense it's cause I'm on some pain meds so deal with it.

That is all.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:33 AM
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Thanks for the report. Sounds like a good trip. What does your wife do while you play poker?
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:41 AM
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I knew this couldn't end well when I saw "Sam's Town Tunica" in the thread title. I hate that place. I can't believe they would have the audacity to charge $200 for one of their crappy rooms in their crappy casino.

I got stuck their my first trip to Tunica for the World Poker Open. It was the only place left the Gold Strike had blocks of rooms left and I refuse to ever go back.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:01 AM
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Thanks for the report. Sounds like a good trip. What does your wife do while you play poker?

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Usually she shops at the outlet mall. But this night she just stood around soaking it in so to speak. then she went to the room and watched CSI.

I beg her to gamble on something and it's not that she doesn't because of moral reasons. She doesn't do it.

I was going to make her play some 3-6 LHE while I was in the tourney just to get the time towards our room. But I found out ST doesn't allow 2 people to play towards a rooms time. Which doesn't make sense because the rake is the rake.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:28 PM
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I knew this couldn't end well when I saw "Sam's Town Tunica" in the thread title. I hate that place. I can't believe they would have the audacity to charge $200 for one of their crappy rooms in their crappy casino.

I got stuck their my first trip to Tunica for the World Poker Open. It was the only place left the Gold Strike had blocks of rooms left and I refuse to ever go back.

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I did end up getting the poker rate of $35. But in the furure I'll stay at The gold Strike for $50 and it's not even close.

I'd say 5 hours play to get the rate is fair. I usually play for 10-12 hours. I just wasn't in a good poker mood and that's not their fault. But I'll say it again, their room sucked.
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:00 PM
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About 10 hands into it I look down in UTG+2 and see 2 black aces. I raise WAY too little for this game to 12 bucks. The next guy says raise instantly and throws out $30. I've played with him before and I don't think he has it in him to raise in that situation without a premium hand. So I think he's got KK or even AA. It gets back to me with a few hesitation folds making me wonder if anyone is folding an ace. So I think for a while and say how I don't like the situation that I'm in yada yada. I say "well I can't fold so I guess I'll raise it up to 100." (He had about 125 left). He pushes instantly I call and he shows QQ. My aces hold up and I'm up a lil over 150 in 5 minutes.

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First of all, nice TR! I have just a few comments on some of the hands, like you asked for. On this one, you can't seriously be worried about getting allin with AA preflop? Worrying if someone mucks an ace? And the speech, with which I would def put you on KK-AA. Luckily, this guy didn't, and missed his 2 outs.

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I bet 60 with the 2nd nuts and both call! One shows the Jh and the lady shows the Qh.

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lol people suck at poker. i always wonder what the overcaller thinks people have.

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Next hand I play is 20 minutes later and I called a 450 raise with AKos. Flop blank he bets big and I fold.

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I'm assuming you were somewhere around 3000 chips in which case, plz plz plz shove preflop.

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Then I start getting some decent cards, calling or mini raising

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bleh.

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I still have an ultra tight image (I think) and I raise in MP with AJ which I normally don't like and another guy goes all in for like 2500 (I had bet PF 900, when blinds were 150-300 25 ante) I didn't want to call but I had to with ATC. He shows AJ as well and we chop.

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nh. mandatory call.

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Sure enough my bb 2 guys go all in for 2800 and 2500. I call blind and flip Q5, I'm against KQ and AK yay! I hit a 5 on the turn and an A hits on the river. Now I'm at 5kish with the SB. Same deal with SB I'm committed to another small stack and I lose.

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I hate these spots in tourneys too where it's late and everyone has like 12 BB. I probably would have called the Q5, but it depends on where people are and how desperate they are. I ran a quick PokerStove, giving both players any pair, any 2 broadway, any ace. You have 22% equity. You have to call 18 to win 68, so you are getting between 3 and 4 to 1, so right about waht you need. It's a def call with just 1 allin, as you have 33% equity vs that range. Also, the 2nd guy's range has to tighten just a tiny bit once one allin happens. But by the same token, it may be worht a slight -cEV gamble b/c you'll be in much better shape if you win. Also, some people are v bad and will still only shove AJ+, 99+ with freakin 2800 chips at 500/1000, so know who they are.



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My wife says she's hungry and I tell her once I sit for 10 min or so we'll go eat and that time will count towards my play. I don't like to sit and leave the table ASAP to go eat but I was in a deal I didn't like.

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sorry man, that's pretty weak. don't hose your table and the waiting list because you made a deal where you don't like the terms.

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Anything from burgers to Alaskan crap legs.

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Sounds DELICIOUS! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I go back and tell myself I'm going to be Capt. Tight arse at the table. These 3-6 HE tables are crazy late at night on weekends (or prolly all the time). I mean people calling with inside str8 draws to the river after multiple raises. When they hit they get berated and then the little arguments go on and on.

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have you read Small Stakes Hold'em? If not, do so immediately, and learn to looooooove these games.

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I only had one memorable hand in LHE. I'm in the BB and I check w/o looking.

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This is very bad, and -EV. Assuming the standard 4-6 callers, you can build the pot $12-$18 right here with your hands that play well multiway. I wouldn't raise big offsuit cards except for AK, but I would raise most pocket pairs, and any suited broadways.

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The flop was 9-8-8. I check (again w/o looking) and next guy bets and the only other guy in the pot raises. I look at the first card and it's an 8. I call and the next guy calls (I've only looked at 1 card.) The turn is a 7. So now I'm thinking I'm going to have someone hit a str8 on me and I deserve it. I check next guy bets next guy raises and I look at my other card and it's a 10. I call. The river is the case 8. There's no FD out there and I bet 6. The next guy calls and the next guy raises. yeehaw! I look at him and tell him "I don't think he has the 9 so I'll raise". So I raise and both guys call. First passive guy has KK and the raiser has A9.

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this is very bad. checking the flop without looking, then only looking at one card is just sacrificing EV for no reason whatsoever. Then the speech on the end "I don't think you have the ____, I raise" that is terrible. That is a 100% guarantee that the speaker can beat _________. On a paired board, "I don't think you have the flush, I raise" translates from donk to English as "I HAVE A FULL HOUSE, OR BOAT IN COLLOQUIAL TERMS."

Again, not trying to bash, just offering some hopefully constructive feedback. I'll be heading to Tuna Town in May, hopefully we can meet up (I'm not staying at ST, for sure, after your mattress description and the crap leg buffet!)
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:48 PM
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I don't know how to do all the quoting w/o doing the whole thing at once so lemme try to reply to each of your replies.

1 - I wasn't worried about AA in the sense that I didn't know I wasn't at least a 4-1 and being a nit. I knew I was willing to get it all in and the way aces have treated me lately I was worried 2-7 would have beat me. Not like I was willing to make a deal or anything. just that it would have sucked to lose 150 with AA right after I start playing.

2 - Yes, they did make bad moves.

3 - I don't know why but i put him on QQ. I realize I'm a 43/57 there but I didn't want to put it all in on a possible cf. I really felt I was one of the better players at the table and I don't think he would have layed down JJ-QQ there. But no, I'm not positive he had that either.

4 - I can't recall specific hands in this time period. Just that it went something like I limp with 2 others. We all check the flop, I bet the turn and they fold instantly. There were a few players at the table I wouldn't do that to automatically but most I would.

5 - TY

6 - I dunno. You may be right but I figured the 2nd guys range loosened if anything. He sees 1 all in, then the SB and BB's chips in there and he sees some great odds.

7 - I agree with you for the most part and normally wouldn't ever do it. But it seems the norm for most people around. (no I won't jump off a bridge if someone else does). The worst is when someone does it and when they get back they pick up their chips and leave.

8 - The dessert was good [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

9 - I havn't read SSLE and I agree I should read that amongst others. One thing I know about SSHE (in Tunica anyway) is how wild it can be. I just didn't really feel like playing so I figured i'd play tight. I did loosen up some but not like some of the knuckleheads there.

10 - I totally agree

11 - Agreed but the "I don't think you have a 9" felt like it would work on this guy and did. I'm probably patting myself on the back when I shouldn't and maybe I got lucky for him to reraise but oh well.

Thanks for the input.

I think one of the best parts of my game is I (think) I know my abilities pretty well. Meaning I don't go out there and do a Carlos Mortenson reraising Oppenheim (sp?) with air just because I saw him do it on TV. I wish I had that gear but right now I don't. Actually I have done it when I've had cold stone reads on my opponents but it's a rarity.
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Old 10-29-2007, 04:24 PM
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One thing I know about SSHE (in Tunica anyway) is how wild it can be. I just didn't really feel like playing so I figured i'd play tight. I did loosen up some but not like some of the knuckleheads there.

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Old 10-29-2007, 06:30 PM
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I knew this couldn't end well when I saw "Sam's Town Tunica" in the thread title. I hate that place. I can't believe they would have the audacity to charge $200 for one of their crappy rooms in their crappy casino.

I got stuck their my first trip to Tunica for the World Poker Open. It was the only place left the Gold Strike had blocks of rooms left and I refuse to ever go back.

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I did end up getting the poker rate of $35. But in the furure I'll stay at The gold Strike for $50 and it's not even close.

I'd say 5 hours play to get the rate is fair. I usually play for 10-12 hours. I just wasn't in a good poker mood and that's not their fault. But I'll say it again, their room sucked.

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I haven't been to Tunica in several months. I've stayed at Sam's Town a few times, mainly because when I decide to go, its the only place with rooms available on a short notice.

I've always called the poker room ahead of time and only paid the poker rate upfront...have they changed their policy and making you pay the full price upfront? Or did you not have a reservation?
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:42 PM
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I knew this couldn't end well when I saw "Sam's Town Tunica" in the thread title. I hate that place. I can't believe they would have the audacity to charge $200 for one of their crappy rooms in their crappy casino.

I got stuck their my first trip to Tunica for the World Poker Open. It was the only place left the Gold Strike had blocks of rooms left and I refuse to ever go back.

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I did end up getting the poker rate of $35. But in the furure I'll stay at The gold Strike for $50 and it's not even close.

I'd say 5 hours play to get the rate is fair. I usually play for 10-12 hours. I just wasn't in a good poker mood and that's not their fault. But I'll say it again, their room sucked.

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I haven't been to Tunica in several months. I've stayed at Sam's Town a few times, mainly because when I decide to go, its the only place with rooms available on a short notice.

I've always called the poker room ahead of time and only paid the poker rate upfront...have they changed their policy and making you pay the full price upfront? Or did you not have a reservation?

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I did have a reservation and I don't know if they've changed their policy.

I do know that once you get to know some people you get special deals, like I do at The Gold Strike. I can accept the fact that I don't get the special deals at ST because I usually only go there for a tourney every once and a while.

Like I've said many times in the past I get treated very good at The GS I only went to ST and stayed there cause I was playin in a tourney and wanted my wife to be able to come and go to the room whenever.
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