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Old 10-05-2007, 05:40 PM
JSchnett JSchnett is offline
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Default 6 hands from WCOOP ME

I don't know how interesting these hands are but whatever.




***Hand 1***

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB (t19325)
UTG (t14425)
UTG+1 (t19650)
MP1 (t25575)
MP2 (t19950)
MP3 (t21475)
JSchnett (t19300)
Button (t20350)
SB (t19950)

Preflop: JSchnett is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t50, JSchnett calls t50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (t225) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">JSchnett bets t200</font>, BB calls t200, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds.

Turn: (t625) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">JSchnett bets t450</font>, BB calls t450.

River: (t1525) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">JSchnett bets t1100</font>




***Hand 2*** The villain in hand 2 and 3 are the same. His name is Galactus00. Not good, loose passive not good pokerdb.


Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t400/t800
(Ante: t50)
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t21728
UTG+1: t40300
MP1: t38240
MP2: t93200
MP3: t46100
CO: t23400
Button: t22688
SB: t56325
JSchnett: t43280

Pre-flop: (9 players) JSchnett is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, MP2 calls t800 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1650)</font>, 3 folds, SB calls t400 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t2450)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">JSchnett raises to t3400</font>, MP2 calls t2600 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t5450)</font>, SB folds.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t8050, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">JSchnett bets t5200</font>, MP2 calls t5200 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t13250)</font>.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t18450, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">JSchnett bets t11200</font>, MP2 calls t11200 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t29650)</font>.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t40850, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">JSchnett is all-in t23430</font>


***Hand 3***

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t500/t1000
(Ante: t75)
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t60565
UTG+1: t61225
MP1: t38075
MP2: t22100
MP3: t21388
CO: t57900
JSchnett: t52180
SB: t26828
BB: t45000

Pre-flop: (9 players) JSchnett is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t1000 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t2175)</font>, 4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">JSchnett raises to t4000</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to t16000</font>, <font color="#cc0000">JSchnett raises all-in t52105</font>


*** Hand 4*** This guy has been pretty tight. I checked planning on c/r'ing but I probably should have bet 3 bet. I didn't like how the board was paired and might make him call me light with his small/med pps so I decided to C/c which is probably the worst option. On the turn he snap checked.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t600/t1200
(Ante: t100)
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t58802
UTG+1: t47650
MP1: t41865
MP2: t46245
MP3: t32550
CO: t22675
Button: t42426
SB: t54200
JSchnett: t75793

Pre-flop: (9 players) JSchnett is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to t3600</font>, 6 folds, JSchnett calls t2400 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t6300)</font>.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t8700, 2 players)
JSchnett checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets t6000</font>, JSchnett calls t6000 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t14700)</font>.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t20700, 2 players)
JSchnett checks, UTG+1 checks.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t20700, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">JSchnett bets t13200</font>


***Hand 5***
BB in this hand was an idiot and terrible. I checked the flop because I was either 1. crushed, 2. they have draws and will c/r me, 3. I won't get action. On the turn I think its a pretty clear call, I went into the tank before calling though and planned on calling the river. On the river ha tanked for a while before betting about half his stack.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t1500/t3000
(Ante: t300)
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t139649
UTG+1: t114850
JSchnett: t97526
MP2: t148234
MP3: t57050
CO: t49663
Button: t246748
SB: t86250
BB: t220282

Pre-flop: (9 players) JSchnett is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">JSchnett raises to t8200</font>, 4 folds, SB calls t6700 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t15400)</font>, BB calls t5200 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t22100)</font>.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t27300, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, JSchnett checks.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t27300, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets t20000</font>, BB folds, JSchnett calls t20000 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t47300)</font>.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t67300, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets t31000</font>.
JSchnett?


***Hand 6***
villain is a kinda tight thinking player but not great who has started to play back at me a bit recently.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t3000/t6000
(Ante: t600)
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t869520
UTG+1: t846616
MP1: t283801
MP2: t138206
JSchnett: t282326
Button: t259534
SB: t182188
BB: t218611

Pre-flop: (8 players) JSchnett is CO with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">JSchnett raises to t16000</font>, Button calls t16000 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t29800)</font>, 2 folds.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t45800, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">JSchnett bets t28000</font>, Button calls t28000 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t73800)</font>.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t101800, 2 players)
JSchnett checks, Button checks.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t101800, 2 players)
JSchnett checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets t52000</font>, JSchnett calls t52000 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t153800)</font>.
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Old 10-05-2007, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: 6 hands from WCOOP ME

Hand 1
Terrible river bet every draw missed he's never folding a six he's never folding jack If he's good he prob calls with like 88 also.
Hand 2
I probably just give up on the turn... On that type of boar hes not folding very often because a lot of his hands are a pair + gutter etc.. once you get to the river i like shoving.
Hand 3
Very read/feel dependent this could be an easy instautoprestoshove or a terrible spew.
Hand 4
C/R flop is better than b3b IMO because I think about 85% of the time you bet he calls so you get stuck in a lot of bad turn spots. I'd c/r flop because he shoves worse fds a lot. And you have like 15 outs against most of his range. As played I hate the river bet your hand looks exactly like a busted FD and AQ high is prob good fairly often on the river here.
Hand 5
Really really super close.... I don't know flip a coin

Hand 6
I like the river call. But i prob just c/f the flop you aren't getting folds that often on such a connected board.
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Old 10-05-2007, 06:10 PM
Pudge714 Pudge714 is offline
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Default Re: 6 hands from WCOOP ME

Hand 1
River sucks.
Hand 2
I probably check/call the flop.
As played check the turn he isn't folding stuff like T9.
As played I like river a lot more if you have like 30k to shove.

Hand 3
Read dependent. Is villain passive? Have you been raising over limps a lot?

Hand 4
Is river for value?
C/r the flop.

Hand 5
Preflop is bad because BB is retarded and will peel way too wide.
River is really close. He could have bare Ac or something. Any hud stats or anything.

Hand 6 not crazy over preflop.
Just check flop flop. I like river since so many draws misses and a lot of people won't vbet queens.
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Old 10-05-2007, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: 6 hands from WCOOP ME

i think #1 is ok; unknowns in this big a tourney can find a fold with a J on the third barrel, and he might have (and fold) a midpair. I wouldn't be surprised if a decent number of the hands he folds are worse draws, though. EDIT: scratch that, I need to pay more attention, I thought you had raised preflop. I doubt he folds a jack when you can't have an overpair + one of the flop cards paired.

like #2; loose passive gets to river with so many hands that can't call on an ace, and most of them beat you.

I think I prefer a fold in #3, utg+1 lrr raise is so strong from a loose passive, I doubt he ever folds, and going from 4k--&gt; 52k means there isn't a ton of overlay. You're kinda hoping he has same hand.

# 4 i think preflop is the only street I like, although there's not much else you can do on the turn having c-c flop. River the only better hand he folds is AK; I guess that's a decent part of his range but I still don't like it. C-r flop, shove turn gets way more folds from midpairs, and b/3b is good for obvious reasons, and if he flat calls your lead (which he'll often do with like 99), threebarrelling is way more likely to get folds that the line you took, especially on overcard turns (K would be better than J, but J is helpful; after checkcalling, you have no credibility for the J helping you, calling pre and then donking doesn't give you much credibility, but checkcalling give you none).

#5 your read is on BB, who folded the turn, not the bettor? I like until the river, turn is clear call versus unknown. I think river is close but I lean toward a fold

I think #6 is fine; he'll have a Q a decent amount but he'll have lots of missed draws. I doubt he's floating and then valuebetting ace high, so your hand is basically ace high. I'd like it better if it were reasonable for him to have 55-77, and it kinda sucks that a decent number of his floats are chops.
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:21 PM
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Default Re: 6 hands from WCOOP ME

I forgot to add that the player in hand 1 tanked the turn before calling and was a tight satilite player.
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