overpair vs 2 stations. tricky turn

jj12 · #1 09-26-2007, 09:05 PM

First guy is 66/8/1. WTSD is 44.
Second guy is 27/16/1.7. WTSD is 23 but I've seen him make ridic fishy calls.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1627.37
UTG+1: $1101.25
Hero: $1120.3
Button: $1420
SB: $961
BB: $676.49

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $60</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($195, 3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $155</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($660, 3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks

poker1O1 · #2 09-26-2007, 09:13 PM

easy bet. I would bet ~400 and expect this to be lower than most responses

jj12 · #3 09-26-2007, 09:16 PM

and if i get crai?

rand · #4 09-26-2007, 09:18 PM

idk, i think i like a check, despite the fact that i can see alot of stuff c/c like 78 type hands and u charge draws

but those 78 hands dont call a river bet
so i think id check the turn and vbet a safe river

this means that the relevant factors are charging draws vs betting into something that has you beat, like 64 or 67

jj12 · #5 09-26-2007, 10:02 PM

If we check here there are a lot of super nasty rivers.

rand · #6 09-26-2007, 10:04 PM

which is more important to you?

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and if i get crai?

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or

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If we check here there are a lot of super nasty rivers.

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jj12 · #7 09-26-2007, 10:12 PM

I am not really sure. they can definately get stacked with a worse hand though. so betting here is def. for value. On the other hand there are 2 donkeys and a 4 is in their range so is 78o

rand · #8 09-26-2007, 10:15 PM

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I am not really sure. they can definately get stacked with a worse hand though. so betting here is def. for value. On the other hand there are 2 donkeys and a 4 is in their range so is 78o

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i agree, my point is you get teh same value from 78o whether you bet the turn or the river bc that hand isnt calling 2streets, the difference is if you dont bet the turn then you cant get CR by 67/54, the down side to this is that they draw for free, i just dont see this as too big of a deal