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Old 10-18-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default 200nl: QQ in 3-bet pot OOP

I really hate these spots.

original raiser is 28/14 over 28 hands, so not much data.

SB who calls both the raise and the 3-bet is 17/12 over 800 hands.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
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Hero (BB): $200
UTG: $74
UTG+1: $34.95
UTG+2: $246.30
MP1: $80.10
MP2: $519.65
CO: $232.60
BTN: $199.60
SB: $214.75

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $2, UTG+1 calls $2, <font color="red">UTG+2 raises to $10</font>, MP1 calls $10, 3 folds, SB calls $9, <font color="red">Hero raises to $44</font>, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls $34, MP1 folds, SB calls $34

Flop: ($146) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero...
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Old 10-18-2007, 07:58 PM
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Default Re: 200nl: QQ in 3-bet pot OOP

definitely check you cant really bet and get it in good like this on the flop and bet/folding really sucks as well IMO
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Old 10-18-2007, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: 200nl: QQ in 3-bet pot OOP

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definitely check you cant really bet and get it in good like this on the flop and bet/folding really sucks as well IMO

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what do you do when UTG+2 inevitably fires this flop though? CRAI? Any number of cards are terrible on the turn if you're not already behind. If SB leads then your in a tough spot too. I'm not ready to give up here so I'd just fire $100 and call the shove if it comes and be thankful you weren't deeper.
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Old 10-18-2007, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: 200nl: QQ in 3-bet pot OOP

You have a PSB behind. Easy push.
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: QQ in 3-bet pot OOP

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You have a PSB behind. Easy push.

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Old 10-19-2007, 12:41 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: QQ in 3-bet pot OOP

AA and KK seem unlikely hands for either villain given that these hands probably would have reraised to isolate rather than play a 3way pot.

That said, you've 3bet w/ QQ, the flop contains neither an A nor a K, and you've got a psb left behind. I'm definitely looking to get it all in on this flop...I'd push unless I was pretty sure that UTG+2 would fire if checked to, in which case I'd crai. People are afraid to fire w/ air in 3bet pots though so you might not get a bet out of him unless he's got a hand like JJ or TT (or something thats killings, in which case there is nothing to be done except be thankful you didn't lose more).
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:57 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: QQ in 3-bet pot OOP

80/call
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: QQ in 3-bet pot OOP

maybe 65/call
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: QQ in 3-bet pot OOP

maybe just shove

anything but checking i guess is my point.
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Old 10-19-2007, 01:09 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: QQ in 3-bet pot OOP

easy push for me

pretty confident you have the best hand right now. great flop for you - push and take it down. maybe you even get called by TT-JJ. you do not want an A or K on the turn

if 78 or 99 is out there, then nh
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