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Old 09-08-2007, 03:58 PM
Raist0000 Raist0000 is offline
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Default Raise-Fold the river with TPGK?

PokerStars $10/$20 Holdem Limit ($10/$20) - 5 players
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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (5.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#FF0000">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero folds.

Villain seems TAG (29/16/2.2), WTSD 37% over 300 or 400 hands. No other reads, I suppose i haven't noticed strange things in his play or haven't payed enough attention lol.

I hate lines involving raise-folding the river, and I practically never do them, but in this hand perhaps is right? When an opponent donks an absolute blank in the river it's usually a missed draw or a pair (usually top pair). Or perhaps the river value raise have little value and i'm much better calling?

edit: the only hand that makes sense is 22 I think
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Old 09-08-2007, 04:34 PM
sweetjazz sweetjazz is offline
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Default Re: Raise-Fold the river with TPGK?

Yeah it really looks like 22. I think the original raise on the river is questionable if the villain is decent. If he had a hand he wanted to value bet, he would have raised somewhere earlier in the hand. It's hard to just call because he's only representing one hand that is bet/3betting, but he's really not representing any worse hands that will bet/call either.
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