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Old 09-24-2007, 09:11 PM
Amaryllis Amaryllis is offline
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Default Sweet 4-8 Commerce game, 99 overpair on the turn

It's a 9 handed $4-$8 game at the Commerce, loose passive as always:

<font color="blue">I raise UTG+3 with 99 after two limpers. CO and Btn cold call, BB calls as wells as the limpers.

Flop: 3 4 5r (6 players, 12.5 sb)

BB bets out. </font> It's his first hand, he is young and seems to have moved from a bigger game juging by his yellow chips.

<font color="blue"> UTG calls. </font> He is as loose as it gets, as passive as it gets, both pre and post flop. He would cling on 22 on a multiway AKT87 board and show it down.

<font color="blue"> One fold, and I raise. Folded to the BB who now three bets, UTG calls and I call.

The turn is a 4, no flush draw:

Turn: 3 4 5 4 (3 players, 11 bb)

BB now checks, UTG checks,</font> what would you do?

If there's interest, I'll post the rest of the hand as well.
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Old 09-24-2007, 09:35 PM
antneye antneye is offline
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Default Re: Sweet 4-8 Commerce game, 99 overpair on the turn

Tough spot, but I think I bet here and take a free showdown if possible. If he c/r's me I think I find a fold here.
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:04 PM
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Default Re: Sweet 4-8 Commerce game, 99 overpair on the turn

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Tough spot, but I think I bet here and take a free showdown if possible. If he c/r's me I think I find a fold here.

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Yep - looks WA/WB and with other trailers still playing their trash, gotta play for the WA to win.
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: Sweet 4-8 Commerce game, 99 overpair on the turn

It is hard to believe that we are WB when they both check the turn.

BB's flop 3-bet could just be an attempt to shut out the third player or a draw. Sometimes you will be c/raised but I believe there is too much value here not to bet. Giving a free card with this board can't be right.
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: Sweet 4-8 Commerce game, 99 overpair on the turn

Smells like 35 in bb or maybe an open ended str draw. If he's really weak, he flopped the str8 but turtled to the board pair. Of course could be could have boated up a set or two pair and is hoping to trap.

Bet/fold or bet/call/call. I dont mind the investment of the bets if he c/r just to see how he played. Two outs aint much but at least your live to all but 1 hand.
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Old 09-25-2007, 12:08 AM
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Default Re: Sweet 4-8 Commerce game, 99 overpair on the turn

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It is hard to believe that we are WB when they both check the turn.

BB's flop 3-bet could just be an attempt to shut out the third player or a draw. Sometimes you will be c/raised but I believe there is too much value here not to bet. Giving a free card with this board can't be right.

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That's what I thought just before I bet:

<font color="blue">I bet the turn, BB check-raises, UTG 3bets (he'd never even c/red during the past 3 hours, let alone check-3bet), I folded.

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Old 09-25-2007, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: Sweet 4-8 Commerce game, 99 overpair on the turn

I don't think you made one debatable decision, well played.
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:24 AM
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Default Re: Sweet 4-8 Commerce game, 99 overpair on the turn

ok, thanks guys

Edit: Just to say that BB called and called again on the river. SB had 34 for the full house, BB mucked.
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:16 AM
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Default Re: Sweet 4-8 Commerce game, 99 overpair on the turn

you must bet here. the pot is big and your hand is vulnerable to so many overcards.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:43 AM
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Default Re: Sweet 4-8 Commerce game, 99 overpair on the turn

bet the turn. Your hand is good. Villain has a draw he wanted to GAMBLE with
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