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Old 06-24-2007, 01:56 AM
FionnMac FionnMac is offline
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check hand 1, you beat most draws

not a bad spot, hate your sizing, I like an overbet or nothing

again, sizing, bluff 75$ in hand 3, make him fold better air

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$75 into $256? Can you confirm what you meant there, and suggest some better bet sizes for the other hands/streets? thx
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Old 06-24-2007, 04:51 AM
Dan BRIGHT Dan BRIGHT is offline
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check hand 1, you beat most draws


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no you dont. the whole point of hand one is to "charge" his combo draw (pair + fd / gutshot / whatever) so you can take him off it on the river. if hes seen you vb thin dont expect him to call with k9/kt on that river either
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:27 AM
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check hand 1, you beat most draws


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no you dont. the whole point of hand one is to "charge" his combo draw (pair + fd / gutshot / whatever) so you can take him off it on the river. if hes seen you vb thin dont expect him to call with k9/kt on that river either

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lol your like no you dont beat his air!! he might have a draw and might fold a pair!!!
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:29 AM
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check hand 1, you beat most draws

not a bad spot, hate your sizing, I like an overbet or nothing

again, sizing, bluff 75$ in hand 3, make him fold better air

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$75 into $256? Can you confirm what you meant there, and suggest some better bet sizes for the other hands/streets? thx

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when someone check/minraises, if its not me, they probably suck, he follows thru on the turn thats fine, his range is polarized.
On the river peopel who take this line are going to C/C or C/F, and the size of your bet doesnt really change what they will do, or at least not often enough for a 1/3rd bluff to be 66% more efficient.
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Old 06-25-2007, 02:07 AM
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check hand 1, you beat most draws


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no you dont. the whole point of hand one is to "charge" his combo draw (pair + fd / gutshot / whatever) so you can take him off it on the river. if hes seen you vb thin dont expect him to call with k9/kt on that river either

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lol your like no you dont beat his air!! he might have a draw and might fold a pair!!!

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a good enough % of the drawing hands hit a pair that you should fire again. you oeverestimate the chnaces of otherwise.
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Old 06-25-2007, 02:10 AM
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check hand 1, you beat most draws


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no you dont. the whole point of hand one is to "charge" his combo draw (pair + fd / gutshot / whatever) so you can take him off it on the river. if hes seen you vb thin dont expect him to call with k9/kt on that river either

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lol your like no you dont beat his air!! he might have a draw and might fold a pair!!!

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a good enough % of the drawing hands hit a pair that you should fire again. you oeverestimate the chnaces of otherwise.

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this is just simply wrong.
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Old 06-25-2007, 02:30 AM
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check hand 1, you beat most draws


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no you dont. the whole point of hand one is to "charge" his combo draw (pair + fd / gutshot / whatever) so you can take him off it on the river. if hes seen you vb thin dont expect him to call with k9/kt on that river either

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lol your like no you dont beat his air!! he might have a draw and might fold a pair!!!

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a good enough % of the drawing hands hit a pair that you should fire again. you oeverestimate the chnaces of otherwise.

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this is just simply wrong.

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(serious question) do you offer coaching?
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Old 06-25-2007, 02:36 AM
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1-- ya, gotta do this most of the time

2-- maybe ok--he ought to fold QQ n such...QQ type hand n maybe spades/clubs is all that makes sense to me

3-- this is awful. i learned 2 yrs ago from fimbulwinter to check hands on the river n let ppl bluff their draws. i've made so much money off of ppl who think "I HAS A DRAW...OH NOES I MISSED MYT DRAW...I MUST WIN EVERY POT"
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Old 06-25-2007, 05:07 AM
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Hand 1 is good.
Hand 2 is marginal, but could be justified depending on your feel for the opponent.
Hand 3 is a bad.
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:00 AM
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hand 1k
hand 2:meh
hand 3:meh but might work against a bad player
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