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Old 10-24-2007, 11:56 PM
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I like hand 2 much better than hand 1. hand one will only work if hes not very good, otherwise he will call w Ax pretty often. hand 2 in villains shoes and w/o any history I would probly fold AK, so 2 is good.
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Old 10-25-2007, 12:23 AM
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i like them both, i would only bet less on hand 2.. it is not necessary to bet that large imo
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:24 AM
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Why the flop call in hand 1?
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:34 AM
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Why the flop call in hand 1?

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Seriously?
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:36 AM
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I like hand 2 much better than hand 1. hand one will only work if hes not very good, otherwise he will call w Ax pretty often.

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meh, people always say this kind of thing around here and i think it's often pretty results oriented (in this case the results being that we know we're bluffing). if someone posted the same hand from villain's perspective and we had A9, the majority would be like "easy fold you only beat air"
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:43 AM
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hand one meh, i like hand two
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:57 AM
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Why the flop call in hand 1?

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Seriously?

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Yea, we have third pair a coordinated flop. Villain is laggy so I doubt he is just gonna c/f the turn...
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:58 AM
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don't like hand one,

hand 2 is not bad as long as u don't make it a habbit.
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:25 AM
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i dont like the flop raise in 2, but turn bet is fine i think
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:36 AM
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I would often fold the flop in hand 1, although the backdoor flush would probably keep me in, here.

I dunno, I think your overbet shove will have mixed results. I've seen some pretty huge calls and some pretty big laydowns, depends on what level he's on. Most LAGs are payoff wizards, though, which is not in your favor.

I assume this flop raise is standard for many of you? I know I do it all the time. I'm not in love with this board for it, since it's pretty draw heavy, and people hate folding aces.

As for the follow through, if you think he's more likely to make this play with a draw than an A, I like it. You can't price out a draw here, but you're still a favorite, and he might even fold his non-combo draws.
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