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Old 11-21-2007, 10:52 AM
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Default 400 NL : KK pf 150 BB deep

I'm standard tag 21/18/3 villain is TakeUrCheese 16/13/3 reg

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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CO: $658.80
BTN: $608.50
SB: $390
Hero (BB): $581.10
UTG: $420.20

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $16</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $60</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $155</font>, <font color="red">Hero ?
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: 400 NL : KK pf 150 BB deep

shove, next hand.
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: 400 NL : KK pf 150 BB deep

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shove, next hand.

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Or call &amp; Shove non-A flop
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: 400 NL : KK pf 150 BB deep

Unless he has seen you 3/4-bet light and possibly 5-bet without AA/KK, i suggest you call and get it all-in postflop on most non-A flops. 16/13 regs don't like to get it in pre with AK and QQ for 150BBs.
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: 400 NL : KK pf 150 BB deep

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shove, next hand.

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Old 11-21-2007, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: 400 NL : KK pf 150 BB deep

OK I know this is not the first thread with this type of hand, but I was wondering, as odgundar said if 150 BB deep there is more value in shoving seeing that we won't be called too often by QQ and AK or if shoving is mainly to prevent us from the times an A flops and there is a ton of money into the pot???
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:29 PM
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OK I know this is not the first thread with this type of hand, but I was wondering, as odgundar said if 150 BB deep there is more value in shoving seeing that we won't be called too often by QQ and AK or if shoving is mainly to prevent us from the times an A flops and there is a ton of money into the pot???

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We shove because we have the nuts. You could also just 5bet to 365 or so, perhaps it might give him the illusion that we are weak and he will stack of lighter.
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:40 PM
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Default Re: 400 NL : KK pf 150 BB deep

I would get it in preflop. Villain is decent, and smooth-calling his 4-bet would look very strong. Obviously 5-betting can't look weak, but it's hard to see AK just calling a 4-bet OOP.
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Old 11-21-2007, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: 400 NL : KK pf 150 BB deep

I think I fold this vs this villain



lol no.
I think $360&gt;shove because it can make him kinda suspicious with AKs or QQ.
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