400 NL : QQ overpair vs overbet shove on flop

[docnuclear]

Wich part don't you agree with, you think JJ calls a 5 bet shove, or you think AQo AQs TT 4 bet ?
As for your question, first raise was a min raise so I thought his 4 betting range was wider than usual since he could think I was isolating, but still I thought his range was weighted towards AK AA KK. I actually thought I was going to be able to make an easier decision based on flop and flop bet sizing, obv I was wrong...
I thought he might not cbet w/ AK on a ragged flop.... since I called a 4 bet.

And to everyone, does anyone fold pf here ?

[cbboy]

Go_Blue, I don't think that logic sucks here at all actually. You definately do have to felt this flop if you just called the 4-bet PF. With that being said, I push PF.

Also, docnuclear, a hand like JJ isn't going to 4-bet/fold PF.

[Laetus]

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Wich part don't you agree with, you think JJ calls a 5 bet shove, or you think AQo AQs TT 4 bet ?
As for your question, first raise was a min raise so I thought his 4 betting range was wider than usual since he could think I was isolating, but still I thought his range was weighted towards AK AA KK. I actually thought I was going to be able to make an easier decision based on flop and flop bet sizing, obv I was wrong...
I thought he might not cbet w/ AK on a ragged flop.... since I called a 4 bet.

And to everyone, does anyone fold pf here ?

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I think JJ won't fold and I think AQ raise it up pre.