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Old 11-13-2007, 07:14 PM
mattiesmat mattiesmat is offline
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Default $16 - TT weak

I think I did not played this hand very well, but hey, I will not learn if I do not post it.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) by Hand Converter CG

CO (t2050)
Button (t2050)
SB (t1540)
BB (t1045)
UTG (t1395)
UTG+1 (t2630)
MP1 (t1395)
Hero (t1395)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t150</font>, SB calls t125, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t100.

Flop: (t500) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t300</font>, Button folds, SB calls t300.

Turn: (t1100) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (t1100) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: t1100

Preflop:
I was not sure what to do.
I would fold 99- here and raise JJ+, however I was not sure what to do with TT. I limp it during the first 2 levels for set value, but here it's a bit expensive and marginal for set value. I would raise if I was in late (mp) position. I decided to just limp for set value+overpair value. What do you do with tens here?

On the flop: All undercards, so I thought I had to bet. I was not too happy about betting in middle position into a big pot, but didn't see other possible better options.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: $16 - TT weak

Your hand is VERY strong preflop, but rather vulnerable post flop. I would openraise either T150 or T200 (or push if there is a real idiot in late position who will call me light.)
It's difficult for me to suggest an 'as played' line, since the hand was rather badly butchered by limping IMO. I mean, what does the raise and call behind you mean? We need to know if these players are lags, or loose passives, or nits only doing this with AK or big pairs.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: $16 - TT weak

I know some people advocate open limping, and I guess it's fine at times. But two off the button with TT and decent sized blinds, just come in for a raise.

Post flop I like how you played it.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:26 PM
mattiesmat mattiesmat is offline
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Default Re: $16 - TT weak

Stats:
Button is 19/10 so far.
SB is 43/5 so far.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: $16 - TT weak

i dont like a lead on this flop, as it turned out the btn folded, but if he calls, how do you proceed.

i think i wouldve gone for a c/r on the flop, both if the sb calls or folds to btn bet. probably just AI. figuring if you arent ahead you have 6 outs.

if you bet and btn calls, you cant continue on like 90% of turn cards.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: $16 - TT weak

Ok, well than if you're going to limp, I think you need to limp/reraise allin. Why? Button's PFR is %10, and it's probably much higher than %10 OTB, so you're a clear favourite against his range. SB is just a fish, and could have all sorts of stupid hands that you can hopefully fold out such as KJ, and even if he calls, you're not in horrible shape. Or he could have other stupid hands that you would LOVE a call from like 55, or KTs.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: $16 - TT weak

lol, we don't raise AI preflop.

We're crushed whenever we get called.
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: $16 - TT weak

i didnt say preflop. did you even read the post?
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: $16 - TT weak

I think he was criticizing me.
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: $16 - TT weak

AMT and Scotty how do you play TT preflop and postflop in this situation?
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