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Old 08-03-2007, 01:53 PM
SEABEAST SEABEAST is offline
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Default Weird river spot with AK

Villain is 21/16 and I've never seen him get out of line. I am 25/20 and quite aggro, but new to FT so not well known. Is this a snapcall hoping to split? It felt really weird at the time. If I feel there is a 0% chance he is purely bluffing, can I call?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $1,499.50
BB: $690.95
UTG: $792.35
MP: $442.40
Hero (CO): $373.50
BTN: $400.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $14.00</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $14.00, BTN calls $14.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($48) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($48) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $35.00</font>, BTN folds, UTG calls $35.00

River: ($118) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $77.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $322.00</font>, Hero...
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Old 08-03-2007, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: Weird river spot with AK

Meh he probably thinks you never beat Ax here, I'd call.
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Old 08-03-2007, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: Weird river spot with AK

If there`s a 0% chance he is purely bluffing he can have 2 combos that beat you and 4 you are splitting with. Also I think AK is less likely given the way he played the hand. May he ever play AQ like this? If not it`s a fold (given he is never ever bluffing).


Edit: I forgot a couple of combos that have us crushed which makes it a clearer fold.
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Old 08-03-2007, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: Weird river spot with AK

if he is never bluffing this is an easy laydown
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Old 08-03-2007, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: Weird river spot with AK

ya call.
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Old 08-03-2007, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: Weird river spot with AK

Wow not sure what to put him on but you're beat against 90% of people on Full Tilt.
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Old 08-03-2007, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: Weird river spot with AK

Lmao, that's an insta call. # 1) He's not putting you on AK since you didn't RR PF. # 2 ) He doesn't chk raise the turn. # 3) wtf chk-raises here with 56, 45, or 23? Most 90% of poker players will lead out here on the river assuming you hit your ace, hoping to get value out of their trips.

His chk-raise is way too strong to have a real hand. $77 to $322? It like screams " I miss played my hand and am trying to make up for it. " I putem on a weaker ace.

Edit: I would've said maybe 67 for him busted draw, but being that you're the aggro &amp; he is tight/solid I would scratch that, he could be slow playing a boat on the flop or trips... it'd be a 50/50 in my mind. Still a very hard fold considering he chk raises on the river instead of leading out. I usually say " good play " and call. lol
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Old 08-03-2007, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: Weird river spot with AK

hes doing that thing where he tries to push you off a chop.

I mean, you never have AK here. So when you do, you should win.
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Old 08-03-2007, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: Weird river spot with AK

I fold. Very few people c/r bluff the river at this limit. If he has AK, kudos to him. I think he has you beat more often than not though.

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Old 08-03-2007, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: Weird river spot with AK

I think this is AQ/AJ trying to push your Ax hand off of a split, or perhaps a value raise by AK. Your hand is was underepped and his line really doesn't make a whole lot of sense with any hand. He could check 44/55, but I think 5x is betting the flop almost always here. AA/KK is already very unlikely given there is only one combo of them each, not to mention I'd be very surprised to see AA/KK check this flop.

All things considered I think this is a call.
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