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Old 11-09-2007, 08:56 AM
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Default Ron Paul quotation - Is it a hoax?

"The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers. On the contrary, our Founders’ political views were strongly informed by their religious beliefs. Certainly the drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government’s hostility to religion. "

I have seen this quote attributed to Ron Paul many times on the internet. I cannot find a direct link to Ron Paul about it.

Is it a quote from Ron Paul?

If not, were did it originate as attributed to Paul, if anyone knows.

If it is, is Ron Paul really ignorant of the constitution to such a degree. Has he changed his mind nowadays?
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:29 AM
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:31 AM
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So he's a constitutionalist who believes that the Constitution is replete with references to God? That's discouraging.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:38 AM
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Default Re: Ron Paul quotation - Is it a hoax?

Probably not a hoax. I presume he's just had a very varied host of speech writers during his carear.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:39 AM
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I understand the point he's trying to make. But it's unfortunate that he's bought into the anit-Christian paranoia.
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Old 11-10-2007, 07:34 AM
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I understand the point he's trying to make. But it's unfortunate that he's bought into the anit-Christian paranoia.

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I'm not religious. I figured out at a young age that Santa was myth, when I was taught in school that male deer lose their antlers in the winter, so, the photos of santa flying thru the sky with those male deer with their antlers on had to be as phony as Bush's Fear Speech's.

I wonder, however, where a congress full of athiests would derive their morality from to act on behalf of the nation as a whole, instead of in their own interests.

I know of a lot of corrupt politicians who claim to be religious, however, I also know of some who are not. Not as many as who are, but there are a few.

I do not, however, know of any athiests in congress who are not corrupt, but I don't know that there are any in congress. Maybe they are the ones who claim to be religious and are not corrupt.

It is quite obvious, to me anyways, that organized religion is nothing more than a money making machine, however, those who believe in a faith have a foundation from which to find a level of morality that would make it possible for them to believe that the correct thing for them to do is what is best for the nation as a whole. I do not know, since I am not one, where an athiest would find that morality. Can anyone enlighten me?
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:35 AM
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I do not, however, know of any athiests in congress who are not corrupt, but I don't know that there are any in congress.

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Pete Stark (D) Fremont, CA is the admitted atheist in Congress.

Decide for yourself if he is corrupt. Here's a place to start.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:45 AM
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Yeah, um the Constitution doesn't reference God at all and while the Declaration does, I wouldn't call it replete with references.

This is one of those things that sounds believable if you haven't actually researched it, kind of like Huckabee's claim that many of the Constitution's framers were pastors.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:43 AM
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So the liberals stole Christmas? LAWLZ
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:48 AM
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Through perverse court decisions and years of cultural indoctrination, the elitist, secular Left has managed to convince many in our nation that religion must be driven from public view. The justification is always that someone, somewhere, might possibly be offended or feel uncomfortable living in the midst of a largely Christian society, so all must yield to the fragile sensibilities of the few. The ultimate goal of the anti-religious elites is to transform America into a completely secular nation, a nation that is legally and culturally biased against Christianity.

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Probably not good for a guy who's apparently going to "destroy everyone in a heads up debate yo" to sound as retarded as Bill O'Reilly.

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Certainly the drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government’s hostility to religion.

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Ron Paul, Apparent Defender of the Constititon, Savior Unto Thee...anyone know if has he actually read the thing?
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