abusing bad TAG players preflop [theory]

[EasyAs1-2-3]

I think 3betting w/ that kind of rubbish OOP from the blinds is something that should be done less than sparingly. I would advocate this only when someone is flat out abusing the BTN and you're fairly sure you will take it down pre, and are planning on a complete shutdown if you do not.

[Irishman07]

Theres really no reason to do it with complete trash. You can do it with hands that will at least flop something some of the time and still be fine. Even 96s is so much better than 84o, and the times you are called the added equity you'll have over 84o will add up.

I just did a rough pokerstove for a villain with a loose calling range of your 3bet - and 96s had roughly a 7% increase in equity over 84o. This may not seem like a ton, but it's a decent clip over the long run.

[Noam Chomsky]

you should start with finding the massive amounts of post flop spots to steal the small/medium pots that are more profitable and readily available to anyone who takes the time to look.

[pineapple888]

Um, the idea is that if you are doing this x% of the time, you might as well go ahead and wait until you have a top x% hand. Makes it real easy, and more profitable and stuff.

[Isura]

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Um, the idea is that if you are doing this x% of the time, you might as well go ahead and wait until you have a top x% hand. Makes it real easy, and more profitable and stuff.

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But some of the top % are more playable and so should see more flops.

[chiTown22]

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Um, the idea is that if you are doing this x% of the time, you might as well go ahead and wait until you have a top x% hand. Makes it real easy, and more profitable and stuff.

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But some of the top % are more playable and so should see more flops.

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Isura, can you expand on this a bit? When you say “see more flops” do you imply maybe lowering your 3bet frequency in order to see more flops?

[blackize]

Isura means that we should be seeing flops with hands that play well postflop and 3betting with the stuff that doesn't

[Speedlimits]

3betting is a really important part of a shorthanded NL cash players game. I've discussed with a lot of people WHY 3betting is so effective but if I wrote it all out it would take me 20+mins (only have 2min or so right now).

Basic premises of 3betting:

You want to be 3betting with a wider ranger IN POSITION as opposed to OOP. There are many reasons for this but an important one is that most people feel really uncomfortable playing past the flop in 3bet pots.

Knowing which boards to c-bet and which boards to check is REALLY important if you are 3betting light (which you should be doing with a very high frequency).

Also knowing which boards to float/which boards to raise there c-bet with is very important too. gtg but ill try to re-visit this topic later.

[Shizzle12345]

3betting CO or MP from btn is so effective. Everyone who isnt doing that much, should start doing that now. Dont use hand ranges, just do it with hands like K9s or 78o

[mendacity]

Consider abusing bad tags, with hands that you can flop equity, not garbage. This is why raising scs > calling pfr. It also helps open your three-bet range on the button.