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Exactly what I expected 0 0%
Pretty much what I expected 2 8.70%
Kinda what I expected 2 8.70%
Not really what I expected 11 47.83%
Definitely not what I expected 8 34.78%
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:54 PM
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[img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] Holy [censored] [censored]

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THAT'S the understatement of the year.
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:55 PM
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thanks for the help on the images. Also, I heard from some other players that doubledrag intentionally lost at least $200,000 to another player on the AP high stakes NL games and HU SNGs. I can't confirm it myself, but I heard it from two other players.
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:55 PM
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I been sayin it all along

and you douchenozzles just flamed me.
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:00 PM
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thanks for the help on the images. Also, I heard from some other players that doubledrag intentionally lost at least $200,000 to another player on the AP high stakes NL games and HU SNGs. I can't confirm it myself, but I heard it from two other players.

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just an FYI, me and a2 are probably the biggest regs at 5/10+ on abso
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:02 PM
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I'm reading through ikestoys' HH and seeing this over and over:

Seat 1 - DAVIDP18 ($6300 in chips) [ 2007-09-06 23:37:10 ]
Seat 3 - DOUBLEDRAG ($18199.50 in chips)
Seat 6 - CASH369 ($5955 in chips)
Seat 5 - IKESTOYS ($6000 in chips)
Seat 2 - XAJA1 ($5580 in chips)
Seat 4 - FRISCOMELT ($9564 in chips)
XAJA1 - Posts small blind $15
DOUBLEDRAG - Posts big blind $30
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to IKESTOYS [10h 7s]
IKESTOYS - Raises $120 to $120
DOUBLEDRAG - Calls $90
*** FLOP *** [Qc 6d 5c]
DOUBLEDRAG - Checks
IKESTOYS - Bets $210
DOUBLEDRAG - Calls $210
*** TURN *** [Qc 6d 5c] [3s]
DOUBLEDRAG - Checks
IKESTOYS - Checks
*** RIVER *** [Qc 6d 5c 3s] [7c]
DOUBLEDRAG - Bets $1920
IKESTOYS - Calls $1920
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DOUBLEDRAG - Shows [Jc Jd] (One pair, jacks)

He check/calls 'the nuts' waiting for ike to hit a pair, then overbets like 5x pot with second pair hoping for a call.

This is one of a number of these hands. He also does a lot of minbet bluffing (and probably overbet bluffing) with second best hands, but never *calls* with a worse hand on any street of any hand I have seen go to showdown.

He's seeing people's cards. It's confirmed.

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The guy looks like he's ~90/70 preflop and he just flatcalls out of the bb with JJ against a steal raise when his opponent has T7o? That seems a little suspicious in itself regardless of the rest of the hand. Are there any hands with similar preflop positions where his opponent opens something like 99 or AJ and he overbet shoves with like TT or AQ?
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:03 PM
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Default Re: Beat: Absolute is *actually* rigged (serious) (read me)

Ike,

I highly doubt it, but I sincerely hope you get refunded by AP in somehow. I wish you the best [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:04 PM
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thanks for the help on the images. Also, I heard from some other players that doubledrag intentionally lost at least $200,000 to another player on the AP high stakes NL games and HU SNGs. I can't confirm it myself, but I heard it from two other players.

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makes sense if he's dumping money to someone he trusts so absolute can't freeze his $
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:04 PM
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Stage #896976330 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $4500 - 2007-09-13 01:43:49 (ET)
Table: 14 (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($765740 in chips)
Seat 8 - CRAZYMARCO ($214260 in chips)
POTRIPPER - Ante $450
CRAZYMARCO - Ante $450
POTRIPPER - Posts small blind $2250
CRAZYMARCO - Posts big blind $4500
*** POCKET CARDS ***
POTRIPPER - Calls $2250
CRAZYMARCO - Checks
*** FLOP *** [4h Kd Kh]
CRAZYMARCO - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $9000
CRAZYMARCO - Calls $9000
*** TURN *** [4h Kd Kh] [7s]
CRAZYMARCO - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $13500
CRAZYMARCO - All-In(Raise) $200310 to $200310
POTRIPPER - Calls $186810
*** RIVER *** [4h Kd Kh 7s] [5s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
POTRIPPER - Shows [10c 9c] (One pair, kings)
CRAZYMARCO - Shows [9h 2h] (One pair, kings)
POTRIPPER Collects $428520 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($428520)
Board [4h Kd Kh 7s 5s]
Seat 3: POTRIPPER (dealer) (small blind) won Total ($428520) HI$428520) with One pair, kings(ten kicker) [10c 9c - B:Kh,B:Kd,P:10c,P:9c,B:7s]
Seat 8: CRAZYMARCO (big blind) HI:lost with One pair, kings [9h 2h - B:Kh,B:Kd,P:9h,B:7s,B:5s]

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owned
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:07 PM
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I'm reading through ikestoys' HH and seeing this over and over:

Seat 1 - DAVIDP18 ($6300 in chips) [ 2007-09-06 23:37:10 ]
Seat 3 - DOUBLEDRAG ($18199.50 in chips)
Seat 6 - CASH369 ($5955 in chips)
Seat 5 - IKESTOYS ($6000 in chips)
Seat 2 - XAJA1 ($5580 in chips)
Seat 4 - FRISCOMELT ($9564 in chips)
XAJA1 - Posts small blind $15
DOUBLEDRAG - Posts big blind $30
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to IKESTOYS [10h 7s]
IKESTOYS - Raises $120 to $120
DOUBLEDRAG - Calls $90
*** FLOP *** [Qc 6d 5c]
DOUBLEDRAG - Checks
IKESTOYS - Bets $210
DOUBLEDRAG - Calls $210
*** TURN *** [Qc 6d 5c] [3s]
DOUBLEDRAG - Checks
IKESTOYS - Checks
*** RIVER *** [Qc 6d 5c 3s] [7c]
DOUBLEDRAG - Bets $1920
IKESTOYS - Calls $1920
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DOUBLEDRAG - Shows [Jc Jd] (One pair, jacks)

He check/calls 'the nuts' waiting for ike to hit a pair, then overbets like 5x pot with second pair hoping for a call.

This is one of a number of these hands. He also does a lot of minbet bluffing (and probably overbet bluffing) with second best hands, but never *calls* with a worse hand on any street of any hand I have seen go to showdown.

He's seeing people's cards. It's confirmed.

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The guy looks like he's ~90/70 preflop and he just flatcalls out of the bb with JJ against a steal raise when his opponent has T7o? That seems a little suspicious in itself regardless of the rest of the hand. Are there any hands with similar preflop positions where his opponent opens something like 99 or AJ and he overbet shoves with like TT or AQ?

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he flatcalled my raise with 1010 later when i had AA, i think he was tightening up pf and using his advantage where it helps more, on later streets
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:07 PM
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the first hand in, I think, 50+ where he does not raise PF but only limp/calls:

Dealt to IKESTOYS [Ad As]

flop A66, turn Q, he check/folds.

Hilarious failurevision hand where he shoves 2x pot trying to get a better FD to fold:

Seat 3 - DOUBLEDRAG ($24288.50 in chips) [ 2007-09-07 00:27:05 ]
Seat 5 - IKESTOYS ($14931 in chips)
Seat 4 - FRISCOMELT ($6815 in chips)
Seat 1 - DAVIDP18 ($2654 in chips)
Seat 2 - XAJA1 ($10835 in chips)
DAVIDP18 - Posts small blind $15
XAJA1 - Posts big blind $30
*** POCKET CARDS ***
DOUBLEDRAG - Raises $90 to $90
FRISCOMELT - Raises $300 to $300
DOUBLEDRAG - Calls $210
*** FLOP *** [8d 10h 2h]
DOUBLEDRAG - Checks
FRISCOMELT - Bets $480
DOUBLEDRAG - Raises $960 to $960
FRISCOMELT - Calls $480
*** TURN *** [8d 10h 2h] [7d]
DOUBLEDRAG - Bets $7560
FRISCOMELT - All-In $5555
*** RIVER *** [8d 10h 2h 7d] [8c]
DOUBLEDRAG - Shows [5h Jh] (One pair, eights)
FRISCOMELT - Shows [3d Ad] (One pair, eights)
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