$20 HU SNG, huge debate with friend

[ukdentisto32]

Ok, I dont play $22 SNG, i play much higher, but my friend who is learning heads up play just started and i was watching him play the other day and this hand came up. Sorry, no converter.

Full Tilt Poker HU SNG Turbo
Hero - 780 chips
Villain - 2220 chips

Villain is actually a descent player, only real weeakness that can be spotted quickly is that he is very passive, calling MANY hands but raising not nearly enough. Hero is very aggressive, raising every other pot and cbetting most of the time, giving up on turn if cbet gets called. He is down to 780 chips just by raising, betting and 2 barreling and missing flops. Anyways, to the hand.

Hero raises to 120 with A9 off, villain calls. Pot is 240. Flop is a rainbow QT3, hero is first to act and shoves all in.

I argue that regardless of whether he folds or not, this is a bad play. My friend argues that it is not a good play but is a descent play (profitable or better).

Is it a bad play, or not?

[Perseus]

What are the blinds?

[ukdentisto32]

my bad, this is NOT a turbo SNG, and the blinds are 20-40

[ChicagoRy]

How often does villain call out OOP and does he ever 3-bet PF OOP?

I assume villain calls with a T or better here, what about J9 or KJ?

[ukdentisto32]

villain calls OOP most of the time, he three bets the flop rarely, im gonna assume only when he has a big hand..

an open ender im sure he would call

[ChicagoRy]

I'm talking about preflop, does he 3-bet at all preflop?

Just use pokerstove to figure out all the hands in his range that call and look at the equity versus A9. Then see what % of hands fold and your buddy wins a 240 pot right away that % of the time. Then add the equity that he wins when the guy calls and see if it's a bigger number than the equity that villain has when he calls and you'll know how profitable it is.

[ukdentisto32]

he 3-bet one time with no showdown...other than that he hasnt 3bet yet

[PLOlover]

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Hero raises to 120 with A9 off, villain calls. Pot is 240. Flop is a rainbow QT3, hero is first to act and shoves all in.

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two low broadway cards look right in his range here if villain called the preflop raise in the big blind, but since villain limped on the button and just called the preflop raise it really looks like 67 or 89 maybe, a good chance villain missed the flop so I can see why hero wants to bet the flop, and due to stack sizes I can see villain floating a lot of his misses, so I can see why hero pushed here,
personally I think its hard to criticize wild play when you get real short.
Also by playing wild he builds some metagame.
Still surely not the best line but you knjow.

[ukdentisto32]

ok..i thought this was a bad play for a few reasons

1) the guy calls MANY hands, and rarely raises, so his range is huge and and this flop is very likely to have hit many mid-range hands..
2) the blinds are only 20-40, and he still has 600 some chips left to work with against a non-aggressive player..so i think he is by no means in trouble or in the "red zone"
3) his own image is very aggressive, so he could be shoving a very wide range of hands, and this makes the villains call with middle or even bottom pair much easier

[dboy23]

was hero in BB or SB??