call and hope to chop?

maverickai · #1 11-24-2007, 04:19 AM

SB 42/0/0.27,0.91,0.62 50hands
BB no reads
CO 25/0/0.5,0.67,0.17 31hands

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, CO calls, HERO raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (14 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, MP1 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls, HERO raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, CO calls.

Turn: (12 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, BB raises, UTG folds, CO calls, HERO ??

I can only hope to chop here. Someone's has hit his straight, and I'll be rooting for Kings to drop on the river for a chop, as it's very likely one of the villians has a Ace. The pot's laying me 15:2, and I can will see the kings 10.5:1.

How do I factor my chances of chopping the pot at SD?

rhayder · #2 11-24-2007, 04:50 AM

Grunch:

It might be a small hand sample but I think you have to fold. I think this is the only way we can punish passive players. Play aggressive when we are winning and fold when they play back at us and we think we are beat.

bravos1 · #3 11-24-2007, 05:08 AM

This should be a pretty easy fold for you. SB and CO are super weak/tight and BB has a straight here very often. CO can easily have one of your king outs with an OESD since he called 2 cold or if he has a FD, then your K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] out is no good.

neurotiq · #4 11-24-2007, 09:38 AM

I'd fold. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Our TPTK isn't likely to be good here and our outs to improve are tainted.

Fadook · #5 11-24-2007, 09:45 AM

Don't draw to a chop when you aren't even getting the odds to draw to an outright win.