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Old 10-23-2006, 06:22 PM
Dan BRIGHT Dan BRIGHT is offline
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Default Re: Gamble?

gamble here = donk off stack
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Old 10-23-2006, 06:54 PM
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definitely call, huge mondo overshove is more often something loco than a set/top2. and we're in great shape against any other FD/combodraw.

also, gamboooooooool!
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Old 10-23-2006, 08:01 PM
Albert Moulton Albert Moulton is offline
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Board: 9c 7s 3c

Hand 1: { Kc7c }
Hand 2: { TT-99, 77, 33, 9c8c, 8c6c, 5c4c, 97o }
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 44.0643 % 44.06% 00.01%
Hand 2: 55.9357 % 55.93% 00.01%

I think you can profitably call if you are getting paid at least 3:2 or better. You can't rely on MP to call. So, if MP folds, you'll need to win 600 or more to call 400 on the push. In this case, there is $46 in the pot + $400 raise, so you'll win only $460. That isn't quite 1:1, but almost.

So, fold - unless you put villain on a much wider range of hands including a fairly large number of bluffs. In that case, you might have to rethink, but folding is still probably best.
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Old 10-23-2006, 10:48 PM
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if he shoves big draws with any frequency then you have to call...

Also, even if slightly -EV, it Meta Game considerations might swing it the other way... Throw in the possiblity of monkey-spew if you crack his set, I think this is 50/50 at worst.. Flip a coin, cause I's not too shabby either way..
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:04 PM
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Call quickly.

Outdraw.

Rinse with soap and water.

Profit from sweet image.

Repeat.
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:09 PM
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Call quickly.

Outdraw.

Rinse with soap and water.

Profit from sweet image.

Repeat.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ahh, the simplified algorithm for our slower members...NH
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: Gamble?

hmmm you're only getting 460:400 on a probable coinflip. I guess there's some slight EV but probably not worth the gamble.

He could have a higher club draw in which case you're currently leading but he probably has some overs too, which would still be a coinflip.

It would be an ideal situation if he had something like Tc8c but even still a fold is probably best overall.
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:49 PM
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callllll
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:52 PM
ninjia3x ninjia3x is offline
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I like it wth the Ac but without it I fold.

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the fact that hero doesn't have Ac should motivate you to call, if he did have Ac, then u might wanna fold.
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:57 PM
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Default Re: Gamble?

He had 106 of clubs and I won with a pair of sevens.
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