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Old 10-31-2007, 11:44 AM
Aggromang Aggromang is offline
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Default Free card or bet for SD

Villain is 50/14 over 150 hands, AF of 0.85

2/4 Hold'em (6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, CO calls.

Flop: (9 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, MP folds, CO calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, Hero checks.

River: (6.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB

With the Jack on the turn, I was debating whether to take this line for free card or to b/f the turn for free SD.
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:51 AM
Realyn Realyn is offline
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Default Re: Free card or bet for SD

WTS is way more interesting ... if around 40 i would bet and check the river, if higher(with a good sample) bet both. If the wts is very low like 10-35 i´m a nit and check the turn/fold the river
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:04 PM
rzk rzk is offline
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Default Re: Free card or bet for SD

wts is meaningless over 150 hands.

i b/f this turn for a free sd 100%.
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:21 PM
mattnxtc mattnxtc is offline
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Default Re: Free card or bet for SD

b/f the turn

edit..to expound on my thought

b/f this turn is best because he will rarely c/r you on a bluff. He is pretty passive overall (at least enough) that you can reasonable fold if he c/r and feel good about it.
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:29 PM
istewart istewart is offline
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Default Re: Free card or bet for SD

You can't fold to a turn raise.
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:42 PM
kross kross is offline
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Default Re: Free card or bet for SD

In the games I play in, people will c/r bluff the turn when an overcard falls often enough that you can't fold.
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Old 10-31-2007, 07:36 PM
RudeboyOi RudeboyOi is offline
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Default Re: Free card or bet for SD

umm...

if you bet this turn
you have to call

youre nuts if you want to fold

bet this turn

you have a pair that may be the best hand

if you get raised, youre getting the odds to call

youre getting 9:1 immediately with
at least one river bet maybe 2

when you have up to 6outs to improve

if he just calls the turn
id bet the river for value

if you did check that turn
you have to call this river bet
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