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Overplayed my Hand?
Just the question if it was the wrong move to shove here.
I think he could have easily had ak aq aj and stuff. But it was an unraised pot :/ PokerStars Game #13059952481: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/11/05 - 15:50:39 (ET) Table 'Kalypso' 6-max Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: EvilMatthews ($24.65 in chips) Seat 2: Daanse Dogg ($15.30 in chips) Seat 3: Pitbullo ($34.90 in chips) Seat 4: fdresn ($10 in chips) Seat 6: hmongfarm ($15 in chips) EvilMatthews: posts small blind $0.10 Daanse Dogg: posts big blind $0.25 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Pitbullo [5c 4c] Pitbullo: calls $0.25 fdresn: folds hmongfarm: folds EvilMatthews: calls $0.15 FRDijkshoorn leaves the table Daanse Dogg: checks *** FLOP *** [5s 5d Ah] EvilMatthews: bets $0.75 Daanse Dogg: calls $0.75 Pitbullo: raises $1.75 to $2.50 EvilMatthews: raises $4.25 to $6.75 Daanse Dogg: folds Pitbullo: raises $27.90 to $34.65 and is all-in EvilMatthews: calls $17.65 and is all-in *** TURN *** [5s 5d Ah] [Kh] *** RIVER *** [5s 5d Ah Kh] [Jc] *** SHOW DOWN *** EvilMatthews: shows [5h As] (a full house, Fives full of Aces) Pitbullo: mucks hand EvilMatthews collected $48.30 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $50.30 | Rake $2 Board [5s 5d Ah Kh Jc] Seat 1: EvilMatthews (small blind) showed [5h As] and won ($48.30) with a full house, Fives full of Aces Seat 2: Daanse Dogg (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 3: Pitbullo mucked [5c 4c] Seat 4: fdresn folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: hmongfarm (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) |
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Re: Overplayed my Hand?
First, open-limping in bad position with 54s is a losing play here. It might be marginally acceptable if all stacks were at least 100bb, and basically every pot is limped 5-ways, but here it's a fold.
Post-flop is good, but I would tend to just call the flop 3bet, and let him bet the turn for you to avoid blowing him off an Ace. |
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Re: Overplayed my Hand?
Honestly, probably - though it's easy to say with the cards. Is it terrible? Not incredibly bad - if deeper, I'd say it's awful.
Against a decent player I can find a fold here. You raise. You have a big ace, a 5 or air. SB lead into multiple people he either has a hand or air. His re-raise should tell you he is very strong. Think of it this way, what other hands do you play like this? A big ace is doubtful here since you'd probably raise preflop, same logic goes for him. Hand range after the flop action should be pretty narrow. Best case is going to be a chop against a sane player. |
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Re: Overplayed my Hand?
At this level I would have shoved tbh
At higher levels he's telling you he has a higher kicker than your 4, even if he's not holding the ace. |
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Re: Overplayed my Hand?
yeah, PF is TERRIBLE!!! to answer your q, I don't think shoving is all that bad here. Against these guys, it's def +++++++++EV
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Re: Overplayed my Hand?
Tough one. You said it yourself, it was a limped pot so villian's range has to included Ax, with x being low or he likely would have raised preflop. You have a good hand but not the nuts. Even 56o is crushing you.
Like you said, limped pot.... no need to go broke here. Big pots need big hands and that you do not have. Trips in a limped pot can be tricky. I think it would be the classic WA/WB. After his reraise I slow down and hope to get to showdown as cheap as possible. I may even just flat call on the flop, you not worried about draws so take it slow and control the pot. |
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Re: Overplayed my Hand?
Limping preflop is questionable, but not necessarily wrong. In some loose passive games, limping with speculative hands is better than folding, which is better than raising.
In this hand, you were going to lose a lot of money. However, the main problem with your play is not that you stacked off--you aren't far behind trips with a higher kicker because the pot will probably be split. The problem is that your line would lose value against an ace. The first raise is fine, but I think the 4-bet push would make hands up to about AQ fold (perhaps AK should fold, but it probably won't). Even at NL $25, many players will fold good pairs on a paired board when you 4-bet. You could get more value by calling the reraise, then making sure the rest of the money goes in by the river unless an ace comes. |
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