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Old 11-23-2007, 04:59 AM
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Default Gross spot vs Scotty Nguyen in Macau ME

APPT Macau 2500 event.

Scotty is up walking around for at least 50% of hands. I haven't been nearly as aggressive as previous live tournaments since the table was much better at poker, but i have had quite a few hands so i look pretty aggro. I've cold called scotty a couple times before, as well as numerous other players, so i think he gives me credit for a pretty wide range.

Scotty is actually playing kind of tight to start off with, but has accumulated some chips when he does play. His pre flop play seems a bit loose/weak but his post flop play pretty aggro. Scotty has not min raised pre yet.

As far as the other two players in the hand, MP3 was a middle aged Asian guy who was SUPER straight forward post flop. The SB was a middle aged Australian guy who was pretty bad and if he checked twice never ever had it.

Blinds 100/200
My stack: ~13.5k
Scotty: ~15k

I hold T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in MP2.

Preflop: 2 folds, Scotty raises to 400, 1 fold, i call, MP3 calls, folds to SB, SB calls (BB has not shown up yet.) BB folds.

Flop: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB checks, Scotty checks, i check, MP3 checks.

Turn: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB checks, Scotty takes a quick look around then bets 1600.

I'm pretty confident on a flop like that there's no one pair hand Scotty ever checks, and if he's good he shouldn't be checking two pair/sets there either. I think he might have a draw or just sense weakness and be firing.

I call, MP3 folds, SB folds.

River: T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Scotty checks. I think about 5 seconds and bet 3000. Scotty thinks about 3 seconds and check min raises to 6000. I?
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Old 11-23-2007, 05:14 AM
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Default Re: Gross spot vs Scotty Nguyen in Macau ME

I'd almost definitely call this
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Old 11-23-2007, 05:16 AM
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Default Re: Gross spot vs Scotty Nguyen in Macau ME

I?

Suck
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Old 11-23-2007, 05:22 AM
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Default Re: Gross spot vs Scotty Nguyen in Macau ME

its a really awkward spot but i dont think you can fold.. scottys really overaggro in hands and really pushes things when he senses any weakness.. hes either got the durrrr nuts or trying to push you off of a 7d8d hand with AK
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Old 11-23-2007, 05:59 AM
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Default Re: Gross spot vs Scotty Nguyen in Macau ME

I think folding is really terrible here

I'd just call..
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:09 AM
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Default Re: Gross spot vs Scotty Nguyen in Macau ME

WTF is he doing?
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: Gross spot vs Scotty Nguyen in Macau ME

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I think folding is really terrible here

I'd just call..

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id just call?

its a lot closer to a fold than a raise

i think i fold, this is one of those dumb spots that he very rarely shows up with a worse 10, and hes almost never bluffing here

as far as what he checked the flop with i have no idea, AT perhaps?
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:30 AM
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Default Re: Gross spot vs Scotty Nguyen in Macau ME

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I think folding is really terrible here

I'd just call..

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id just call?

its a lot closer to a fold than a raise

i think i fold, this is one of those dumb spots that he very rarely shows up with a worse 10, and hes almost never bluffing here

as far as what he checked the flop with i have no idea, AT perhaps?

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"I'd just call" does not suggest I have any plans of raising.

I just wouldn't fold here vs him. I think his bluff frequency here is higher than you do, but I could easily be wrong about that.

I'd call > fold >>>>>>> play aba HU for rolls > raise
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:40 AM
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Call. Hate poker.
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:55 AM
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Default Re: Gross spot vs Scotty Nguyen in Macau ME

Easy call. Scotty will also do this with an AQish type hand planning on C/R the flop. He will make this sick value bet in marginal spots where he thinks he's barely good but also thinks he's getting called. He'll do this with AT just as much as Tx or Qx or JJ or whatever.

Also though, I kinda like a turn raise planning to check river behind unimproved.

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