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Old 03-22-2007, 05:03 PM
pete fabrizio pete fabrizio is offline
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Default Re: Neat flop spot kinda deep 5k PLO

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Well being up against 98 doesn't really change anything except for the 1 out. Pretty much any hand that gets in with you on the flop is going to be beating your AKQ draw at the moment, so the 98 straight is no different. The smooth caller however does change things, as between the bettor and caller they're likely to have at least two of your outs tied up.

Still, I like the pressure play here - especially because you have counterfeit protection if you hit your hand on the turn.

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smooth caller = more money = good
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Old 03-22-2007, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: Neat flop spot kinda deep 5k PLO

I'd crai here. It's very possible liddle has something close to yours or set, or two pairs or some other random stuff, just not 89.

With the stack sizes, if they got anything at all, they are pretty much committed, and even though sometimes you'll have only about 25~30% equity, I think you'll have about 40% (ore more) here enough of teh time to make this a profitable, albeit heavy gambooool play.

Ideally burke got nothing and was just stabbing and liddl folds some [censored] two pair since he'd be priced out... or better yet, liddl calls with AKQJ giving you a freeroll... things along those lines, anyway, it's hard for me to not go for a CRAI here, especially after a smooth caller.
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Old 03-22-2007, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: Neat flop spot kinda deep 5k PLO

raise to get liddl out
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Old 03-22-2007, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: Neat flop spot kinda deep 5k PLO

You aren't up against 98 that often, if you thought he was likely to only bet with 98 you wouldn't have checked the flop. When you are up against 98 you win the pot 40%+ anyway.

The good thing about checkraising here is you get rid of some hands that do quite well against you that would have shoved if you bet. For example you profit by folding out J876 or Q976 even though you are well ahead of either of those hands.
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Old 03-22-2007, 06:05 PM
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I don't know, I kind of want the hand to either end right there on the flop or get in a 3 way all in. Either way, I like CRAI.
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Old 03-22-2007, 06:14 PM
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Default Re: Neat flop spot kinda deep 5k PLO

shove.
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Old 03-22-2007, 11:18 PM
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Default Re: Neat flop spot kinda deep 5k PLO

Yeah, definitely crai.
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Old 03-23-2007, 12:52 AM
O-Tower O-Tower is offline
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Default Re: Neat flop spot kinda deep 5k PLO

cri, hope that u get two callers, one with 89 and one with topset.
40%
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Old 03-23-2007, 12:57 AM
Eman6969 Eman6969 is offline
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Default Re: Neat flop spot kinda deep 5k PLO

Heres what you do miniraise therefore making it look like you have the nuts and getting hands you dont want in to fold and hands you want in to call. Then push on the turn if they just smooothcall. You have a monster draw so you arent in bad shape against any hand. This is the kind of hand you want 2 get 2 callers with.
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Old 03-23-2007, 10:15 AM
Bartholow Bartholow is offline
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Default Re: Neat flop spot kinda deep 5k PLO

What hands that you don't want in will fold to a minraise?
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