Reraising Preflop with Previous Callers in NL

[PokrLikeItsProse]

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i would limp only if I have very aggressive players behind me who can't stand the thought of a unraised 5 way pot that he doesn't try to steal. Otherwise, its a tragedy to go to the flop unraised with AA.

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I don't think that it is a tragedy in certain scenarios, such as if the stacks are very deep and your opponents are very good.

Also, this is a raised pot, not an unraised pot.

[PokrLikeItsProse]

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you are turning your hand face up by 3betting an EP raise + 2 Callers in the hijack, which means villain(s) can play perfectly vs your range (QQ - AA, AK) with pps and suited connectors.

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That assumes that your re-raising range is actually that well-defined.

[Bone_Daddy]

You should min raise and then push in the dark on the flop and then complain on how unlucky you are when you have the 4th best hand by the turn. Oh wait this is 5/10 not 1/2.

Does anyone consider jamming here. I always think a jam shows more weakness (like JJ trying shut down a hand) than a 3-bet. With 4 players in the pot already, you have to kill the odds for set mining, the problem is, if you don't bet enough and the original raise calls (even with ace k/q), subsquent cold callers have better and better odds to call and see flop with pps. I like the 3 to 4xs rule, but with 4 in pot, don't think bumping it higher hurts. worse outcome is you shut down the hand, just a bad layout for aces.

[Vavavoom]

I make it $133 or $144...

which is just around the pot size

You probably want original bettor and an overcall from this scenario and then play poker from this spot... $100 is too small ...

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

A pot-sized raise would be to $155 if I did my math correctly. I would probably raise to a number between $100 and that.

I would probably make it closer to $175 - $200 to go.

The logic is that you'd rather take your aces against 1 or 2 opponents with some dead money in the pot. If you raise to $120 and the initial raiser calls, the first cold caller is getting better than 3:1 to call. If he calls (incorrectly or not), the rest should call, and you're now taking AA against a big field in a big pot. And while you will have position, position decreases in importance as the number of players increases.

Sure, I'd like a caller or two with my aces, but I'd rather not have 4.

$175 to go.

[grando]

200 to go

[Phone Booth]

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I'd like to hear opinions on this topic...

Situation:

5/10 NL ring game
Average strenght opponents, no rocks, no kamikazes
Everyone is evenly stacked
You are just before the cutoff

Seat 1 (UTG)...FOLD
Seat 2...RAISE to $30
Seat 3...FOLD
Seat 4...CALL $30
Seat 5...CALL $30
Seat 6 (YOU)...???
Seat 7 (cutoff)...???
Seat 8 (D)...???
Seat 9 (SB)...???
Seat 10 (BB)...???

Pot: $105

You have A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and you want to reraise. You have 4 players still left to act after you.

WHAT DO YOU DO???

Do you just call hoping that one of the players left to act will rereaise so you can reraise again?
Do you raise the pot making it ~$200 to go?
Do you over raise the pot, ~$300+, hoping the players left to act fold and only the initial raiser calls?
Or do you do something totally different?

I am faced with this situation quite often and I always find it as a difficult decision on how much to raise. I am VERY interested in finding out the opinions of others.

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This is really a wrong forum for this but from a theoretical standpoint, you do have to reraise most of the time to cut down your reverse implied odds. If effective stack is 500-1000, calling is really bad, unless a reraise is very likely. If effective stack > 2000 or < 300, calling becomes actually more reasonable.

[Ray Zee]

raise about a quarter of your stack.