50/1 flop spot

[jfish]

you dont think calling is infinitely better than min3betting?

edit: im all for small reraises, but not here.

[jfish]

also why do we want to put lots of pressure on him when we have a bluff catcher?

[ike]

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you dont think calling is infinitely better than min3betting?

edit: im all for small reraises, but not here.

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I think that in exactly the spot sub described, calling is the correct play (though far from infinitely better). With identical stacks/board but different metagame considerations, I think reraising small can be better. I was just taking issue with your claim that with this little left to play there was no reason to reraise on the flop.

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also why do we want to put lots of pressure on him when we have a bluff catcher?


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we would want to put the pressure on with a bluff catcher in a situation like this because we want to balance the times we make the same bet with air, intending fold to a shove. minrr'ing when we want to continue as opposed to calling becomes more appealing as we widen the villain's range to the point that we want to frequently play back with unpaired hands that can't call down.

[jfish]

yea i kind of wanted to retract my 2nd post there after i posted it. i think we share the same thoughts really, cant find anything that i disagree with.

[AAismyfriend]

$4875/call shove

[moneyymakerr]

i shove this on the flop

[yaaam1484]

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i shove this on the flop

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welcome tourney player

[Jazzy3113]

Insta raising is kinda deceptive and of course theres a possibility he has trips.

Using the info provided, he could be on tilt but as you mentioned he is a regular and one buyin really doesnt effect them.

I think calling down is the best play over a r/r. You allow yourself a chance to get away from the JJ and if he is bluffing you maximize value.